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1) Wolves have let us spread the payments very generously - 1st year being nothing besides Hoever's value 2) Jota's probably on less than half the wages Werner was after. 3) Suspect we've only moved on Jota now we're sure we're getting in decent money for Origi, Brewster, Grujic et al.

Quick enough and a very fast initial burst, gets past defenders with a bit of control and a lot of acceleration. Also quite narky, which is no bad thing in a forward.

Sure, increasing debt is doing just that - spending future revenues ahead of their actual arrival. Same as any credit. Our effective working capital - from a football (not just financial) perspective - is the total value of the squad, plus cash at hand. And by running with little debt we are effectively reducing that total working capital, which means a thinner squad than our rivals. We don't have to keep ballooning debt forever, but if we chose as a one off to shift our debt level to (say) £300m (still £200m less than Man U for example), then we'd have 2 or 3 more high class players in the squad, always. The only risks we'd bear is (1) if the market for players completely craters, making us unable to liquidate value in our squad, or (2) if we stop running the rest of our operations the way we have been for 4 or 5 years now - growing commercial revenues, selling on youth players for decent money, selling older players for top dollar etc. The way FSG are running us right now makes perfect sense if your goal is an exit in about 3-5 years, but means you're relying on a lot of luck that your thin squad doesn't get exposed at any point by injuries, suspensions etc. Edit: additionally, our debt-to-value ratio is absurdly lower than under H&G, before anyone starts talking about unsustainable loading of debt.

As others have said, and SwissRamble makes clear, the difference is entirely down to FSG not wanting to run the club with heavy debt, unlike our top 6 rivals. This is most likely because they have one eye on selling us and we're much more attractive when not debt-laden, as it allows a prospective purchaser to buy us using debt, as H&G did. As Nate says, their current success model is just Klopp. Without him, we're nowhere. And as Ed says, the nightmare scenario is that they sell pretty much when Klopp leaves, so we have a new manager and a debt-heavy ownership, and we're back to 2010.

They're the Ayre-Bear bunch?

It's true. I'm not.

Do all German managers take the piss in press conferences? Great deadpan from Herr Flick: https://www.theguardian.com/football/video/2020/aug/24/thiago-is-staying-hansi-flick-jokes-after-bayern-champions-league-victory-video

Clearly on a wind up. As if Henderson would go for £20m - wouldn't even get his left leg for that. But anyhow, don't see our Jordan leaving before Jurgen.

If you watched the Wolves v Olympiakos match the other night, he looked bloody good. Great run & shot early on, very well saved by Patricio, and a fine cross near the end that Hassan should have put away but his header was too close to the keeper. In between, worked hard, presses well, got booked for fouling Traore. Only one match but very promising, and very much a Jurgen full-back. And yeah, I've been watching far too much footie since lockdown.

The golden age of reff'ing was specifically whenever Pierluigi Collina was on the pitch. It's literally just those times.

Yeah but hopefully it will also be a massive celebration too, like Dortmund did. Be sad but glorious. There's probably a word in German for that.

I like your thinking, except that the CAS ruling has also set the fee for refusal to allow FFP investigation: €10m per year.

This. Point made on MoTD "do you think it might help to have former players in the VAR suite?". Well yeah, it wouldn't be a terrible idea to have people who have actually played the game involved in officiating...

Neco saving us a goal there. Carra-esque!

Positives from tonight: 1) Result didn't matter at all 2) City will think they're better than they are 3) We might get more transfer funds 4) It's a kick up the a*** to the squad to re-focus, and remove any complacency if there was ever a danger of it after the last 13 months. 5) Jurgen might say something funny in the post-match.

Backup stream: http://www.hesgoal.com/news/63344/Manchester_City_vs_Liverpool.html

http://liveonscore.net/soccer-streams/manchester-city-vs-liverpool/

Bloody hell Jurgen. That's done me.

On this basis they should be enormously keen on Lovren. We should suggest a p/x with Saka/Martinelli

Clem (77) VVD (19) Gerrard (05) Souness (81) Dalglish (84) Sub: Hughes (78)

Great foul by Origi - stopped a break, which since Degsy came on, we're susceptible to.

Christ, we take him for granted sometimes. He's excellent.

Agree with that. That's a collection of very high quality goals - and his record in Spain suggests he was a very good striker... averages a goal every other game the past 5 years. Maybe he was too young when he came to us, maybe being out of position so much didn't help. Can't help thinking the Aspas of the last 5 years would've been more useful to us than the broken Sturridge we had after that 2013 season.

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