"The Board" or "The Americans"

[melia]

Does their nationality matter?

 

I can understand people being pissed off with how the club is being run but it *really* s***s me when I hear people referring to them as "the Americans". The club is run (or should be) by a board of directors - direct your anger towards them and leave their nationality out of it. Don't let your argument be deflected way from the real issues.

[Gunga Din]

Their nationality matters not a jot. its the fact that they havent a f***ing clue is the worrying bit

Edited January 2, 2008 by big wayne

[Coyler]

Does their nationality matter?

 

I can understand people being pissed off with how the club is being run but it *really* s***s me when I hear people referring to them as "the Americans". The club is run (or should be) by a board of directors - direct your anger towards them and leave their nationality out of it. Don't let your argument be deflected way from the real issues.

Not all the board are American, though.

[richwilks]

I think the issue isn't necessarily their nationality but more the fact it's the way to distinguish them.

 

They are American, I would have no issue with someone calling me the British if I took over a Baseball team.

[Maldini]

When has anyone made an issue of their nationality?

[pipnasty]

We should only use their official titles i.e 'the motherf***ing Yanks'

[McBain]

I just wish they'd treat the spaniard better that's all

[Coyler]

When has anyone made an issue of their nationality?

If anything, only their camp in the heady early days of magnificent USworld-class stadiums.

 

Possibly also the Snoogy Doogy fiasco.

[The Hitman]

Are you Ian St John?

[melia]

Their nationality matters not a jot. its the fact that they havent a f***ing clue is the worrying bit

Agreed. So let's stop bringing their nationality into it.

 

Not all the board are American, though.

Makes it all the more important, when addressing the people who run the club, to not group according to nationality.

 

I think the issue isn't necessarily their nationality but more the fact it's the way to distinguish them.

 

They are American, I would have no issue with someone calling me the British if I took over a Baseball team.

The board run the club. Any issues relating to how the club is run should be addressed to them.

 

When has anyone made an issue of their nationality?

People are using nationality (rather than role) as a grouping term. That makes it easier for any opposition to deflect the real issues with accusations of xenophobia.

[The_Adder]

Rafa always calls em it, which I think is funny as f***!!

 

They are poor though:

 

1) No big money for players (I dont care if we spent £40m+ in the summer, we made a load from sales and we had the TV money)

 

2) Design an amazing looking stadium, publicly display is and show it off, then withdraw it

 

3) Fall our with our great, great manager

 

4) As yet havent put the money forward for Masch, probably the best player in the world in his position who is desperate to stay and who the manager desperately wants to stay.

 

Great PR, Zero substance.

 

The can kiss my ass quite frankly.

[Coyler]

Makes it all the more important, when addressing the people who run the club, to not group according to nationality.

Not if you're complaining specifically about what has happened since the American people named Gillet and Hicks came, or how the two people -- Gillet and Hicks -- who bought the club have comported themselves, or how their promises -- the Americans' -- have turned out to be crap.

 

Parry is a nationality unto himself and his mendacious verbal excrementals are dealt with on an ad hoc basis.

 

People are using nationality (rather than role) as a grouping term. That makes it easier for any opposition to deflect the real issues with accusations of xenophobia.

That really isn't an issue at all.

[bazdev]

Rafa always calls em it, which I think is funny as f***!!

 

They are poor though:

 

1) No big money for players (I dont care if we spent £40m+ in the summer, we made a load from sales and we had the TV money)

 

2) Design an amazing looking stadium, publicly display is and show it off, then withdraw it

 

3) Fall our with our great, great manager

 

4) As yet havent put the money forward for Masch, probably the best player in the world in his position who is desperate to stay and who the manager desperately wants to stay.

 

Great PR, Zero substance.

 

The can kiss my ass quite frankly.

 

 

 

 

 

Typical Americans

Edited January 2, 2008 by bazdev

[David Hodgson]

This is ridiculous, and there's no comparison to the Ian St John 'Frenchman' references to Houllier. St John clealry came across as a zenophobe and there was absolutely no 'short-hand' achieved by refering to GH as such.

 

Gillette and Hicks are a collective of two people, therefore words that summarise that 'collective' seem reasonable to use. Especially when there clearly are no derogatory overtones in refering to them as 'the Americans'.

 

Personally I prefer to use terms like 'swindling Republican co*Ksuckers', or SRCs for short.

[melia]

That really isn't an issue at all.

Fair enough, I just can't help but feel that it may become an issue at some stage.

[melia]

This is ridiculous, and there's no comparison to the Ian St John 'Frenchman' references to Houllier. St John clealry came across as a zenophobe and there was absolutely no 'short-hand' achieved by refering to GH as such.

 

Gillette and Hicks are a collective of two people, therefore words that summarise that 'collective' seem reasonable to use. Especially when there clearly are no derogatory overtones in refering to them as 'the Americans'.

 

Personally I prefer to use terms like 'swindling Republican co*Ksuckers', or SRCs for short.

 

I wasn't implying xenophobia. I can imagine that others would like to make such an accusation but, for me, the objection is one of personal preference coupled with a defensive attitude against such accusations.

 

It's just as easy to label them 'the millionaires', 'the grey-haired fellas', 'the mult-sport franchise owners' or 'the Americans'. Our objections lie in their roles as owners or directors so I'd prefer to use that 'collective' to describe them. There's no ambiguity if you keep to those terms.

[Gilps]

Even Parry referred to them as "the Americans" in his statement on the offal on New Year's Eve. If its OK for other board members to call them that, I'm sure they'll not get offended by the same term being used on internet forums.

[Coyler]

Fair enough, I just can't help but feel that it may become an issue at some stage.

I doubt it, to be honest; I think that the pretty much open-armed welcome they initially got precludes it. There has been no sniff of it in the press, either, even on the slowest news days.

[The_Adder]

Cant we think of something worst to call them than the 'Americans'? I'm bang into this SRCs mularky

[Guest chopper]

Well for what its worth they can kiss my hairy British a*** the pair of rooting tooting yee ha jumped up redneck mofo's

[melia]

Chairmen

G.N. Gillett Jnr (U.S.A)

T.O. Hicks (U.S.A)

Rest of Board

R.N.Parry B.Sc, F.C.A. (U.K)

F.L. Gillett (U.S.A)

T.O. Hicks Jnr (U.S.A)

D.R. Moores (U.K)

 

If the club f***s up then they are all culpable.

[Guest chopper]

Chairmen

G.N. Gillett Jnr (U.S.A) c*** UNT

T.O. Hicks (U.S.A) c*** UNT

Rest of Board

R.N.Parry B.Sc, F.C.A. (U.K) SPINELESS c***UNT

F.L. Gillett (U.S.A) c***UNT

T.O. Hicks Jnr (U.S.A) c***UNT

D.R. Moores (U.K) SPINELESS MONEY GRABBING c***UNT

 

If the club f***s up then they are all culpable.

 

bUNCH OF c****UNT

Edited January 2, 2008 by chopper

[Coyler]

Chairmen

G.N. Gillett Jnr (U.S.A)

T.O. Hicks (U.S.A)

Rest of Board

R.N.Parry B.Sc, F.C.A. (U.K)

F.L. Gillett (U.S.A)

T.O. Hicks Jnr (U.S.A)

D.R. Moores (U.K)

 

If the club f***s up then they are all culpable.

When did they declare this collective responsibility? It's a company board, not the cabinet of an elected government.

 

I note that the two chairmen are from the U.S.A. I also note that it is they who have been breaking promises and making unsatisfactory noises in the media. As chairmen of the board.

Edited January 2, 2008 by Coyler

[alext]

What nonsense.

[Stew F]

What nonsense.

Agreed, is the football that grim we have to resort to threads like this