Quick Q

[millsee]

Why do Everton come onto the field to the theme of the Z-Cars.

 

A quick search reveals that one of the cast was an Everton fan. but surely that can't be it.

 

Can it?

 

[Falconhoof]

The tune predates Z-cars apparently. Its an old skipping song that children sang on the streets of Liverpool. Don't know if thats true, just something I heard from a mate.

[zimmie4444]

'Johnny Todd' is an old Liverpool folk-song. As to why Everton have adopted this tune in-particular as opposed to other Liverpool folk-songs I don't know.

[Guest Snorky]

Everton won at Watford back in the 60's, the tune was played then and Catterick asked for the song to be played at Goodison as he felt it was lucky.

 

Watford played it first though.

[Hieronymus Bosch]

Have Watford played it since? I heard it at one game earlier this season...

[fyds]

'The Johnny Todd' was/is a pub in West Vale, Kirkby. Johnny Todd himself was a 17th/18th Century sailor from Liverpool who supposedly had an eventful career. Probably apocryphally, the story goes (as in the lyric) that his fiance dumped him while he was away, and on his return she had married another sailor, so leaving him 'on his Todd', which is where the term supposedly originates - I have my doubts on that one, but a quick check shows no alternative, so - maybe.

Edited December 28, 2007 by fyds

[jon_hall]

No wonder they want to move to Kirkby.

[Guest efcrmagic]

We played it first Snorky.

 

The cast visited Goodison back in the 60s' and they came out to that at half time, the fans liked it, the club liked it and ever since then it's stuck.

 

Up the Blues.

[Guest Snorky]

We played it first Snorky.

 

The cast visited Goodison back in the 60s' and they came out to that at half time, the fans liked it, the club liked it and ever since then it's stuck.

 

Up the Blues.

 

Nah, it was deffo Watford - I read about it in a book about Harry Catterick about how it was so unusual and the music seemed to lift the players so he tried it at Everton's next home game. Actually thinking back Everton never played Watford, he was there watching a game - my mistake - sorry. It was first played at Goodison according to the book on 21st December 1963 against Manchester United. Everton had been beaten at Arsenal and drew at Fulham in the previous two games. He felt the music would give the team an extra lift, it did as you won 4-0. The rest as they say is history - but believe me or not - Watford played it first.

[Guest efcrmagic]

Celtic sang YNWA first you know.

[meepins]

Celtic sang YNWA first you know.

Man Utd supporters came up with that song right after they invented singing songs.

[NWR]

Man Utd supporters came up with that song right after they invented singing songs.

 

first bit is true anyway

[PhilM]

Man Utd supporters came up with that song right after they invented singing songs.

 

When are they going to start doing that?

 

Besides songs about us of course.

[John am Rhein]

Z Cars: easy to get the theme music from the start of the prog. But what about the music that used to play at the closing credits?

[Coyler]

Celtic sang YNWA first you know.

Was watching the Lisbon European Cup win on Celtic TV with an acquaintance who was still quietly of that opinion.

 

I ventured that it was odd that their club song didn't get an airing on the occasion of their greatest triumph.

[Ostrich Man]

Celtic sang YNWA first you know.

wasnt it the cast of Carousel?

[Ostrich Man]

When are they going to start doing that?

 

Besides songs about us of course.

eh?

[John am Rhein]

wasnt it the cast of Carousel?

 

It was sung by Henry V and his chums at the Battle of Agincourt

[fyds]

Nah - they chanted 'Who art thou? Who art thou? Who art thou?"

Edited January 7, 2008 by fyds

[M4TTA]

Nah - they chanted 'Who art thou? Who art thou? Who art thou?"

i like that one

[L19red]

'The Johnny Todd' was/is a pub in West Vale, Kirkby. Johnny Todd himself was a 17th/18th Century sailor from Liverpool who supposedly had an eventful career. Probably apocryphally, the story goes (as in the lyric) that his fiance dumped him while he was away, and on his return she had married another sailor, so leaving him 'on his Todd', which is where the term supposedly originates - I have my doubts on that one, but a quick check shows no alternative, so - maybe.

 

on his/your tod comes from cockney rhyming slang

tod sloane = alone

 

he was a jockey famous jockey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tod_Sloan_(jockey)