Paul Jewell, Phil Dowd, the FA

[Guest Kev]

With Paul Jewell officially complaining about the fact that referee Phil Dowd swore at his players, he has opened a big massive can of worms.

 

I refer to the Laws of the Game, Law 12 Fouls and Misconduct. Sending off Offences:

 

Sending-Off Offences

 

A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the following seven offences:

 

is guilty of serious foul play

is guilty of violent conduct

spits at an opponent or any other person

denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

denies an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player?s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

receives a second caution in the same match

 

I've highlighted the interesting part. We all know that players swear like troopers at the referee and the assistants and get away with it. Well if Phil Dowd is punished for swearing at the players, I can see the referees getting their own back on the players by enforcing the action they should be taking for foul and abusive language. If this happens, then it will have serious repercussions for Man United and all their foul mouthed c****.

[R A Softlad]

Excellent.

[L19red]

part of the problem is that a ref is given a grade by the managers as well as the league assessor and as they all want to keep their £60K jobs they arent going to risk getting null points by flashing cards for swearing

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I'm all in favour of players getting booked / dismissed for swearing - more the better.

I have said before that Football can learn a lot from egg chasing - northern proper egg chasing that is - none of your southern toffs union bum fest.

anyway - I would like to see

rolling substitutions

allow 'injured' players to get attention without stooping the game

a time keeper

players booked &/or sent off for swearing or answering back to referees

sin bin

Gary Neville castrated

[Nebraska Red]

I'm all in favour of

 

Gary Neville castrated

 

at last, something we can ALL agree on.

 

let's start a petition.

[Knox_Harrington]

Said it in the other thread but that was just about the worst officiating I've seen for sometime. Absolute s***house stuff.

[sutty]

Said it in the other thread but that was just about the worst officiating I've seen for sometime. Absolute s***house stuff.

 

It all evened itself out.

 

No pen given, no sending off, he runs straight up the other end of the field, is off side, not given, creates the equaliser

 

It evened the game very effectively

[Knox_Harrington]

It all evened itself out.

 

No pen given, no sending off, he runs straight up the other end of the field, is off side, not given, creates the equaliser

 

It evened the game very effectively

Fair point well made. Well done Mr Dowd.

[Ostrich Man]

wigan complaining about him cursing is f***ing pathetic.

[ManxRed]

They ought to have complained about him on the grounds that he was f*ck*ng dreadful.

[Hightown Phil]

I didn't think it was a penalty.

[smithdown]

They ought to have complained about him on the grounds that he was f*ck*ng dreadful.

 

 

My guess is that ANY dispute between wigan and dowd will mean they don't get him officiating any of their games this season, which is probably all they can hope for.

[intense enigma]

at last, something we can ALL agree on.

 

let's start a petition.

 

http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=par1145701jp4.jpg

 

 

He heard ya

Edited February 14, 2007 by intense enigma

[Benzo-13]

Said it in the other thread but that was just about the worst officiating I've seen for sometime. Absolute s***house stuff.

 

It was total one-sided rubbish by an absolute dire ref..

[Guest Kev]

part of the problem is that a ref is given a grade by the managers as well as the league assessor and as they all want to keep their £60K jobs they arent going to risk getting null points by flashing cards for swearing

 

The refs mark are now solely based on what the assessor says. The assessor knows the laws of the game and should mark the referee fairly. Managers, players, tv pundits and alike think they know the laws of the game and therein lays the problem because it's those people that talk to the media and hence they are believed.

 

In defence of referees everywhere, I would love to see replays cancelled for a trial period just to see how those 'experts' cope making a decision on the spot without getting ten million camera angles.

[San Diego Red]

Excellent.

Nah. Brilliant

[kenny7]

With Paul Jewell officially complaining about the fact that referee Phil Dowd swore at his players, he has opened a big massive can of worms.

 

I refer to the Laws of the Game, Law 12 Fouls and Misconduct. Sending off Offences:

 

Sending-Off Offences

 

A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red card if he commits any of the following seven offences:

 

is guilty of serious foul play

is guilty of violent conduct

spits at an opponent or any other person

denies the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)

denies an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player?s goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick

uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures

receives a second caution in the same match

 

I've highlighted the interesting part. We all know that players swear like troopers at the referee and the assistants and get away with it. Well if Phil Dowd is punished for swearing at the players, I can see the referees getting their own back on the players by enforcing the action they should be taking for foul and abusive language. If this happens, then it will have serious repercussions for Man United and all their foul mouthed c****.

 

 

Everton have just splashed out on Howard too, he'd be constantly banned

[John am Rhein]

I'm all in favour of players getting booked / dismissed for swearing - more the better.

I have said before that Football can learn a lot from egg chasing - northern proper egg chasing that is - none of your southern toffs union bum fest.

anyway - I would like to see

rolling substitutions

allow 'injured' players to get attention without stooping the game

a time keeper

players booked &/or sent off for swearing or answering back to referees

sin bin

Gary Neville castrated

 

There used to be a principle (not sure how rigidly it was enforced) that only the team's captain should have any interaction with the referees. They ought to go some way back towards that.

 

The refs mark are now solely based on what the assessor says. The assessor knows the laws of the game and should mark the referee fairly. Managers, players, tv pundits and alike think they know the laws of the game and therein lays the problem because it's those people that talk to the media and hence they are believed.

 

Dead right. And when they something which is self-evident sh*t (often enough) they back it up by saying the referee 'doesn't know football' which implies there's some other 'football' which exists in their head and somehow overrides the actual rules.

[ManxRed]

Everton have just splashed out on Howard too...

 

Some derivative of the 'Soggy Biscuit' game?