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It's definitely on the cards. We had to beat Chelsea and the Glams to get here, I don't think we'll let up any now. Our lads will be every bit as up for the game as theirs and I think we'll play them off the park.

That's just the Prem prize money, right? I'm sure the 2nd team gets twice as much from the CL TV pool money.

How much is 2nd worth in terms of Premiership and CL prize money and TV money vs 3rd?

Not as pissed off as me. I just did it again

I am aware that it doesn't work in quite the same way as pocket money, but what will have happened to the 12 million we were trying to spend?

Doesn't Rafa have the Owen/Simao money from last summer still burning a hole in his pocket? I reckon he'll have 30+ to spend including sales.

Not really. Sven consistently wastes him as a holding midfielder, so I reckon we'd see a bit more from Stevie. Knowing Sven, though, he'll use it as an excuse to play Beckham in central midfield

But who plays on the left, then? I definitely agree that we need a holding player behind Fat Frank and Stevie, but Owen's no lone striker.

Houllier's time was up anyway, regardless of what was happening at Stamford Bridge. I'd say we're good for Chelsea. Every time we knock them out of a cup, we give them something to look forward to next year

Quite. A manager with a fat head can do a lot of damage indeed.

Apparently it is. Not sure why. I get called an island-ape all the time (the German slang for the English, a la Jerry etc.) and loads of opposition fans throw bananas at Oliver Kahn. Of course, these would both be bang out of order if we were black...

Ultimately, his motivation and line of thinking is no different to that we have been battered with for years, especially recently regarding the England manager's job, and his opinion is the same as many here and UEFA want regulations to enforce it. He just chose an incredibly offensive way to express it. I reckon the coach probably isn't an idiot, so I guess it is alright to say that there

No, no, no. Like this:

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I hate the English press so much. I'd just added them to my list of stuff to boycott when I realised I don't buy any papers anyway. I wanted Scolari. I wanted a proper, world-class manager who knows what he's doing. I still do. I do not want Steve McClaren. Or any other English manager. There are some cracking young English managers, but they're 10 or more years away from being ready. They need proper European experience. Steve McClaren might have masterminded the two greatest European comebacks since Istanbul, but he also masterminded the holes they've repeatedly had to dig themselves out of. No. No, no, no. Please, no. Disclaimer: I am an Englishman living in Germany since a couple of months after Euro 96. The success of the England team has a direct and measureable effect on my quality of life.

It's possible, but I think at the ages we're talking about and the physical load footballers are under compared to athletes, injuries and mental factors are probably the most important.

Anything blue. Vodaphone, Wilkinson Sword, Nike. And my local Irish pub. They say barred, I say boycotting.

They can swap positions at half-time. 4-4-3 plus 4 subs. Even better.

Good point, well made. I really felt for Topmueller at the end of that season. Like us the previous year, Leverkusen completed every fixture, but whereas we won a treble, they lost the CL final, the DFB cup final and they even lost the league to Bayern on the last day of the season. Then all their best players went to Bayern.

That's true. I've had the odd post buried but nothing consistent. Also, my name's Dean. No idea where you got Carl from

That bodes well for a warm reception *searches bookmarks for link to last season's Lampard vs Gerrard thread on CFCnet*

I'm off me head, so I'm probably wrong, but didn't Jewell take Wigan to the League Cup Final? Personally, I'd give it to Shearer. Let him win something with Newcastle and we won't have to listen to him being bitter on telly for the next 30 years.

So which is it? Is he a Hamann replacement or a winger?

A different perspective. I read lots of other teams' boards. There are a lot of intelligent and witty posters, though my fave poster on CFCnet is also an LFC fan.

I've never had any bother with anyone from CFCnet. I've had some mail from the lovely Kristina, but no aggro. I just try to remember where I am. There's a lot of people on any footie board where, if you did a search and replace with other teams' names for their own, they'd go mental at what they read. The name, "THE INTELLIGENT FORUM", may be a bit up its own @rse, especially as articles on other teams are relegated to "THE LESS INTELLIGENT FORUM" (and the forum software is not exactly teh b****x), but there are a lot of very knowledgeable posters and the mods work their @rses of approving every post. I think they're entitled to a bit of pride in their work and to be very pi55ed off when someone causes them loads more work for which they don't get paid anyway. Hands up who'd think it was funny if we'd lost on Saturday and YNWA.tv had been painted blue and retitled "unemployed bin dippers"? That was my guess from the screenshots. Still, if you run a forum, it doesn't make that much difference if they rooted your server or had admin access to your forum. If I were Pete Sampson (the guy whose business CFCnet is), I'd likely be giving Mr. Murphy a good kick up the a*** and a lesson in choosing good passwords...

Pathetic. Running over to a Chelsea forum to gloat (as many LFC fans did after Barca knocked them out of the CL, despite the fact that we weren't even through) is sad enough. This is embarrassing to me as a Liverpool fan.