and what do Boro do for England? Churn out a load of s**** that's what they do. Boro fans would shout back Downing at me, but he is no International. We have Stevie, Carra and Crouchy. Carra, who is the best centre back next to Terry in the league, and he doesn't even get bloody picked! Throw in the likes of Murphy, Heskey, Barmby, Carson, Fowler, Kirkland and Owen over the years. Just because McClaren is now the manager and Woodgate is playing for England, Boro feel they have the right to pick at other teams.