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Troy Deeny's bitterness is on a whole other level: "Two goals created from midfield. Imagine thinking you're playing for Spurs and then for Man City, and then somehow you have to stay at Liverpool and compose yourself, and still perform." Added bonus for confusion / evidence of not having watched the game since he thinks Gakpo played in midfield.

He's not gonna do much in attack, but yeah, definitely added solidity and makes us look more secure.

Did they even mention it during the game or HT? given the pen that Alisson conceded a week ago, it's pretty amazing that they didn't award a pen for this one, given it was far worse, and the very definition of a late challenge. It was so late, that it obviously confused all the officials (and VAR) who conveniently pretended there was nothing to see. Also just weird they didn't show a replay of it after it happened.

Gusto is another that looks better at wingback than back 4. Obviously he's better than Frimpong, but sadly, most of us on here are probably better than Frimpong.

Am absolutely NOT gonna watch the Adam Clery vid on Barcola. I've got his number how - his whole thing is purely designed to put the mockers on any player we sign. Isak, Kerkez, Wirtz, all were absolutely perfect for us according to him. He even explained how Frimpong was gonna be good. This whole mess is 75% FSG's fault and 25% Clery's.

Haha! I thought you were kidding. Sad thing is that he'd still be an upgrade on what we currently have available. Fact that Dom is our best option for RB at the moment is absolutely damning.

An obscene amount - but they are playing the 'game' as it it's football manager - even without now being able to sell hotels to themselves, they buy so many players and make so many profits on them (like the 20m profit they somehow made on Delap), that they can keep doing it.

Sarr as a back up striker can't really do much worse than Isak at the moment, and Isak obviously can't play in every game, so that's fair enough. We are all terrified at the possibility, indeed possibly likelihood, of us selling Gakpo, and just getting Sarr in as a replacement and nobody on the right.

"Checking for handball" as they show 5 replays in a row of him shooting and it being deflected in, and not a single one of the moment he handballs it. Amazing.

Yeah, even among the weird s*** we've done in recent years, the idea of selling Gakpo to City and then paying 70-80 million for Sarr is hard to fathom.

Yes - definitely improvement there. Can also see that we are trying to pass the ball a little bit more quickly, but it's obviously going to take time for him to get his ideas across. And the gaping hole that is our midfield, and brainless / technically limited fullbacks isn't gonna make life easy.

Not great in center midfield, but among the many many problems we have, he's fairly down the list of concerns.

The running stats I saw were interesting if true - Wirtz top (12.3km) followed by Dom (11.4km), Munoz 10.9km. Nobody else in double digits though.

Think if he used his pace right and could pass / cross the ball, his size and strength would be less of a concern, but the amount of times he gets in good positions and then does a pass or cross that makes him look like it's his first time playing football, is infuriating. So he contributes almost nothing to defence or attack. Other side isn't much better, but I still think Kerkez might come good. Frimpong seems a lost cause.

Went out for a few hours and come back to 10+ pages... Got my hopes up that something good was happening, only to see we're selling Gakpo to one of our main rivals for about the same as Spurs paid for (huge failure) Savinho, and will likely replace him with nobody, or a 28 year old Sarr, for which the term underwhelming doesn't come close to doing justice. Just wow. Would love to see some rabbits pulled out of hats here (and waiting for some Journo to wake me from, this dream by saying Liverpool were never really considering Sarr), but yep, Hughes is going to do down in history as an unmitigated disaster that maybe has put us back a decade.

Missed a sitter, scored a nice goal, and can run decently fast. A rare positive on another crappy day.

We have been s*** for a year, which means some of this is moot as we'd find other ways to shoot ourselves in the foot, but man, from where I sit, it's like they spent ages deciding how they could disallow the Wirtz goal, gave and confirmed the penalty super quick when we'll see similar not given time and time again and no pen given, and then the fact that it came from a foul throw just rubs salt into the wound.

Didn't realize Sarr was injured too at the moment. Makes it even more understandable why we're after him. /s

Exactly, which is why (I know it's Ornstein) but I'm hoping it's nonsense, cos that doesn't even make sense.

I hope this is nonsense, or that we jump back in at that price if it is true.

Sarr as a squad player 3 or 4 years ago would have made sense to me. Minteh and Mbaye obviously have far higher ceilings.

This is nuts. I don't know whether it's just the market, but given it's Chelsea, it feels more likely there's something dodgy going on there. A player who scored 1 goal all season, and they make a twenty million quid profit? hmmmmm.

"Establish a direction of travel" Are they talking about where they want to meet in order to chat? Or are we at such an early stage, that we first need to establish that if we buy a player from them, they have to come over in our direction so they can play for us?

I hope we sign him, but ooft, we desperately and more urgently need reinforcements in midfield, right back and right wing. Would love to be proven wrong, but I can't see us getting all of that plus (110m pound) Barcola.

Did he actually call him a winger? Cos everyone knows he is not a winger, even if he sometimes plays off the left. It would be like calling Coutinho a winger cos he sometimes played in that similar position in the front 3. Still have high hopes for Wirtz, because he's clearly got enough talent to make it and it's still hard to judge when the players up front are so limited. But he needs to do so much more, and not just have flashes every few games.