Fastardo
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I just asked Google Gemini about this attitude and it didn't hold back. 1. Collateral Damage Is Inevitable in Institutional Fraud In any corporate collapse or sporting scandal—whether it's Juventus being relegated after Calciopoli, Rangers going into liquidation, or Saracens being relegated for salary cap breaches in rugby—the supporters and playing staff suffer for decisions made by executives. That is not a flaw in the disciplinary system; it is how institutional accountability works. A football club is not just a roster of players or a fan base—it is a single legal entity. If you exempt a club from meaningful sporting punishment purely because its fans are blameless, you effectively make elite, ultra-wealthy clubs entirely unpunishable. Executives would have a permanent green light to cheat, knowing the fans act as a human shield against sanctions like point deductions or relegation. 2. The Real Victims Were the Rival Fans, Players, and Managers The "innocent fans and players" argument completely ignores the opposing side of the pitch: Rival Players: Players at Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, or relegated teams worked just as hard, trained just as diligently, and played by the rules, only to miss out on Premier League titles, Champions League qualification, or top-flight survival to a squad assembled using £900m+ in illicit, unrecorded cash injections. Rival Fans: Thousands of fans spent their hard-earned money traveling across the country, watching their teams come runner-up or suffer relegation, robbed of moments of genuine sporting glory because the playing field was tilted behind closed doors. Opposing Managers: Managers lost their jobs because they couldn't compete with a club operating under a fundamentally different financial reality. If City’s players and fans suffer a fall from grace now, it is a delayed consequence of a system catching up to a fraudulent baseline. The suffering of rival fans and players happened in real-time, irreversibly, over a decade. 3. The Players Benefited from the System While the players on the pitch didn't draft the fraudulent accounts, it is naive to pretend they were completely disconnected from the benefits: They won medals, lifted trophies, built elite careers, and collected world-class wages—all made possible because the club had the financial leverage to build a super-squad and hire elite infrastructure that rival clubs operating under FFP limits simply couldn't match. Even if individual players weren't complicit, their success was directly subsidized by the very breaches the commission laid bare. They enjoyed the upside for ten years; facing the downside when the structure collapses is the natural legal trade-off.
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Ah, the old three-ponged attack.
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Finally, we've signed Snoogy Doogy.
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Yeah, true. I suppose I should have said we've won every trophy it's possible for us to win.
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So after we win it, have we won every trophy it's possible for an English football club to win in the 21st Century?
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Manchester United (Home) Thursday 10th March 8:05pm KO
Fastardo replied to épieur's topic in Liverpool FC
http://www.football365.com/news/16-conclusions-liverpool-2-0-man-united * Ending on a sour note, I’m afraid. Don’t blame me. “The Sun was right, you’re murderers,” was the chant sung by a number of United fans, enough in number to be heard. What f**king possesses somebody to do that? What sort of ignoramus do you have to be to mock the death of football fans? Where is the scrap of awareness to realise that any of those 96 supporters could have been your mother, your brother, your father or your friend? Naturally, a minority of Liverpool supporters responded with their own vile chants, like savages who can work on no other basis than ‘an eye for an eye’. It’s just one big bloody sigh, and I couldn’t give a shiny sh*te who started it. Have a look at yourselves, it’s a football match. I know it’s exciting and you really want to win and them to lose, but you’re embarrassing yourselves and your families. Football is bloody brilliant. It’s just a shame that it brings out the worst in such a large number of shuddering f**k knuckles. Good night. EDIT: Beaten to it - soz. -
SG on Xabi: The best midfielder I've played with. JC: Same here
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Today's Football 2014-15
Fastardo replied to Sir Tokyo Sexwale 's topic in General Football Discussion
Patrick Stewart @SirPatStew 1h1 hour ago Wayne Rooney, once a terminator, now a simulator. Hey, ho. Even Jean-Luc Picard thinks Rooney's a cheating c***. (I've paraphrased a little). -
If he keeps this up he'll be Jockey Can.
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