Where do you get that I'm saying largely not because of the owners? They're the boys at the top of the tree, they're ultimately at fault for everything. And give over with this after thought b******s, it's been the crux of my point for as long as I can remember - clearly they've made choices that have ended up not working out, clearly they think they're a bit smarter than they really are when it comes to football, and clearly the blueprint that brought them success in baseball hasn't worked for football - but the idea that they're s***, they're c****, they don't give a f*** because they don't come to matches, is just daft. They're businessmen. We're a business to them. The idea that they want us to be mid-table, they don't care about us winning, blah blah f***ing blah is ridiculous though. In the 13 years that they've owned that "rounders" team they've won the World Series 3 times - no other team has won more than that in that time. The idea that they don't want a team that wins is laughable. Have they made the right decisions so far to make that happen? Of course they haven't, cause it hasn't happened yet.