and as i said earlier, our captain has been guilty of those things too. in general his work rate was good and anyone who doesn't want to admit it, is because they are choosing to have a blind spot imo. his over gesturing, stupid hair cuts and ridiculous boots don't help his cause imo. he's by no means a kuyt, but he's no winston bogarde either. a great example imo is he works no more or less than nicolas anelka and i never remember him coming in for the level of schite Cisse has.