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Watch yourself Anny Rd, or someone will be forced to "Let you have it".

Water boils at 100c - fact Tea is nice - opinion I like tea - fact Parry is s***house - opinion I think Parry is sh|thouse - fact Remember to look both ways crossing the road and to use toilet paper when wiping your hole. Grant and Phil Mitchell.

I had heard Southampton were suposed to have a cracking youth team. Well in boys.

I'm shouting for Arsenal too. All the way back to Cashburden Grove with the European Cup. Or maybe Barca, but anyway.

Love him or loathe him, and whether you agree with him or not, he's never boring... RTE have the best pundits in the business - and the best policy of just letting them off the leash: ON Cisse - " here we have Cisse, right wing, attempts to put in a cross, BANG...hits the full back, again BANG hits the full back, BANG...off the full back again, and once more, BANG...smacks the full back again.... Millions of euro and he can't clear the first man, I mean...what's he trying to do to the full back here, Kill him??" On Kewell - "Eamon, how did you rate Harry Kewell ?" - "Fat. And a clown. A fat clown for all to see." On Fowler - "An overweight has been. He's got more money than Liverpool!" Mourinho didn't escape either : "A bluffer who just got found out. Will never be at the tactical level of Milan or Barcelona, doesn't even have the footballing intelligence even to know why Barca beat him. Look at his claims that the best team didn't win. Ridiculous. He's a bengal lancer" ON Cisse and Garcia - " It was Ragball Rovers out there with Cisse and Garcia. Look at Cisse. Somebody thought he was worth £14 million at some stage. He's no left foot and no right. £14 million and counting. They bought him a big mansion in Cheshire and now he's no more than a part of the landed gentry. Absolute rubbish " On Garcia - "What do you do with Garcia, I'll tell you what to do with him, he should be put in a rubbish bin where he belongs "

Irish lads will love this one - Dunphy on his radio show reviewing last night, rightly putting the boot in to our performance and whatever else but then brings up the Rafa leaving story with Graham Hunter with a typical sensationalist made-up introduction - "He looked pissed off, he didn't get on to the touchline, seemed like he was out of there". Anyway, after I chuckled at that, Hunter says: "The latest I have heard is that Rafa is using the media to put out a message that is stronger than his actual position. He wants more money to spend, his family are very very happy and he feels richly rewarded by LFC and his England experience so far. But he is a brutally stubborn man and if he doesn't get what he wants, after his Valenica experience he will not be willing to stay around and let his achievement at Liverpool detriorate and will say something like "With regret I will move on". Anyway, the fact remains that the more money expectation might be true (and still we don't know how is briefing who) but everything else after that is just supposition.

Bit harsh I think. Traore probably isn't up to 'it' but depending on what the 'it' is I think Garcia Kewell and Moro could well be up to the standard. They weren't up to it last night, for sure but we were almost shambolic at times. I know that's a very strong thing to say, but in the context of who we are (Champions) where we were (at home) and what we were at (chasing down a 1-0 advantage to a distinctly average side), I think it's not overly harsh. We were all over the place in terms of how we looked to get the goal back after the furious opening 30 minutes and then control the game to squeeze the life out of Benfica. I know if we had taken the early chances we would have had a different game altogether, but we contributed to our downfall. And yeah, I'll be cheering on the Gunners and Barca to give us the final line up.

Totally agree with Fred. With Gerrard in the mood he was in, Hamann should have anchored with Alonso and let Gerrard rampage where he pleased, nominally from the right where Garcia or Harry "Where's my end product gone" Kewell on the left. We had such little focus and control last night that it was troubling. After our 90 mile an hour start failed to yield a goal we should have started playing more patient football. Not much you can do about a class goal like Simao scored. I'm afraid last night took a big chunk of my faith out of Crouch. I will defend the contribution he makes to the team but as a front line striker for a top European club, it's just not enough. He has to score the kind of chance he missed last night. Moro does the work of 2 men but we all know he or his strike partner needs to be delivering goals. Fowler, for all our hopes, hasn't been presented with more than a handful of chances he might reasonably be expected to score. I don't know if that's his fault or the guys putting him into goal scoring situations. I hope Rafa takes this as his cue to make us more like his old Valencia team, and less like Chelsea and that we really offer a genuine threat next year in the Prem. Am in brutal humour, and will take it out on some unsuspecting people I am meeting all morning.

Got a good snigger out of that. I wonder arre they (in that pic) taking the mick out of someone on the Barca team asking the ref to give a yellow card? A loathsome habit, polished to perfection by Chelsea players?

Which is fair enough, but when told that Rafa Benitez was " the manager of the Valenica team that tore seven ar5eholes out of us" you probably would have chalked him down as a proper manager, even if you didn't remember what he looked like. That's not to say you or anyone would advocate him as a manager in 2004 - I didn't. Just saying that it's not like he was a totally unkown quantity.

Well, we do specialise in denial, apparently.

To be fair, every Liverpool fan knew who Rafa was after his team tore us several new ar5eholes when we played them. As for MON, well even I would admit it would be a step down in class after Rafa.

Yeah there were definitely a few mentioning Rafa but if I recall it was nearly always in the way that he was a name in the middle of a list of 3, more than someone championing him. TBH, I just didn't believe he'd consider us but I didn't know enough about him to know that he'd be up for it or capable. Of course nobody really knew about the whole lamps and sofas situation either, apart from Molby, presumably. I liked the Translator for some time, mainly cos he was successful and had a bit about him. It took me that time to see that he wasn't a WUM and it was the real him, which was the end of it.

Things we can all accept which aren't worth arguing about. 1. The football they play is pragmatic and successful. Chelsea clearly are not all about football for the sake of it and offer the neutral very little. 2. Chelsea cannot win with grace, let alone lose with it. The Translator's now boring use of attribution theory (our win was our doing / our loss was the fault of the ref / UEFA / Sky Sports etc) is not because they don't fit in with establishment clubs ("we need to be in G14") as they are spinning, but because he's a vvanker. 3. They have been incredibly unsporting with factors not relating to the game itself - not relaying a pitiful pitch, making groundless accusations that Anders Frisk was biased etc. The Translator then behaves as if he is Jesus with crucifixion imminent. 4. The Translator is happy to break basic, long-standing and laudable protocols - like shaking your opponent's hand after a game. This is not highlighted by the Harry Harris's, Lahdan E'nin' Stanah' or Martin "Trough Lolly" Samuel etc. 5. Chelsea's willingness and aggressiveness in 'meeting' players, or trying to link them to the club (Eto'o´etc) before important ties, no matter how massively unlikely the move, is sh|thouse and represents them in their true light. 6. When it doesn't work out, Jose gets teary (Messi, theatre goer). When it does, it's not worth talking about (Reina, heir to Cassius Clay). 7. They've always been a vvanker's club.

You're spot on with your latter comment. The great Frank Lampard did yet another impression of Paul Scholes last night..... didnt even realise he was on the field until the last minute when he showed up to take a penalty that was laughable in its awarding....

When Sir John Terry stood bellowing over Ronnie, after he had been made an utter cúnt of, jumping down hard so as to suggest utter rage at the fact that he couldn't get the ball, I actually had to withstand the urge to high five my co-viewer comrades.

All 4 of those clubs are very definitely the 4 in "G14 + 4", added for the political clout of owners and others connected to the clubs, rather than for any overwhelming record of success. If Roman starts appearing capable of having pull in UEFA or FIFA, then Chelsea will be invited in with full cermemony. The other clubs don't consider them useful toward their end, because both Kenyon and Abramovich are probably considered neophytes, to some extent.

He can still do it in patches for Chelsea but his form is down. What infuriates me is his Chelsea-esque ywllow card waving mime when he deems fit. Would kick it out of him. Tonights performance was nothing like as good as his performance last year there.

Was it even a peno? I dont think so.

The translator is out. Nice to see him show zero imagination in his substitutions, then lapse into graciousness, before resuming self delusion in his interview.

Solipsists, by their nature, don't miss anyone.

Please be quiet, you insufferable bore. I'd imagine most posters here are as sick to the back teeth of your grand unsubstantiated pronouncements as I am. We'd all be doubly disappointed if you chose now to start grasping at straws when your world class banging of your old drum has been refuted by the man himself.

They'll seek every advantage where they can find it. They'll hope to throw up a technicality and get it reduced.

Well if the agenda-harbourers and wannabe agenda-setters on this board shut up for a while, that would be a start.