I know what you mean Leo. A mate of mine is a big City fan, only went to Manchester Uni because of it and was sat in a pub in Moss side with a load of his "charges" ( Social, rehabilitation and probation services) watching the telly cheering our lot on in istanbul. He phoned me up after the game and you would have thought he was eithr there or in a Liverpool pub!! Mind you, some of his mates have suddenly become a bit, "We are only where we should be; We have worked hard for this; We were always gonna do this one day, with or with out rich owners; your now s*** coz your name isn't big anymore....etc..."