Grabber and Lobster

Just that no keepers have got better after they joined us, under JA's coaching. And several have seemingly got worse. If Alisson backslides it will be damning, as there's literally no way anyone can claim JA's not working with good raw materials in this case. Might all be coincidental, but it looks like a correlation.

and kittens. You forgot the kittens.

The cynically-minded might say that it's taken 6 months for Achterberg's 'coaching' to have an effect, and now it is. Here's hoping AB is back to his early season godliness soon to dispel such thoughts.

This.

i hope Jurgen spends 5 minutes of HT just slapping Naby.

Hope you're right! Just looked saveable on the behind-the-goal replay. Don't want Alisson catching the LFC goalie curse... (shudder).

Also WTF was with Alisson's non-dive? If Ming has done that we'd all want him shot. Has the entire team bar Mane turned crap lately?

Yeah, something like that. Perhaps once they are 8 or 9 goals ahead, some of their players slip into comas out of sheer boredom.

LMFAO Played.

CB might be someone like Felix Uduokhai - plays for Wolfsburg. 21, German, won't expect to play every game, was being talked up as the Next Big Thing about a year ago, meant to be very promising - Arsenal reportedly after him before Wenger left. Dunno if we'd go for a player like that (seems a bit like Gomez when we signed him), or want a more finished article, assuming Lovren does go.

Yeah thought he'd also cost around £20m a year in wages I imagine. Hence Madrid or PSG are about the only places he could go.

Brighton have Dale Stephens (their holding mid), Dunk and Duffy (CBs) who are 3 of the slowest players in the league, all in the middle. We should kill them with our pace & movement. Obvs they are good at home, but they are also missing their standout goalie, Ryan, who's away at the Asian cup, and their reserves are utter gash (Button and Steele). We should repeat last season's win handily I'd have thought. Mockers be damned.

When people say "oh but he's good cover" or "a decent back-up" - he just isn't. We would 100% be better off playing a youth teamer there. They can't make more mistakes than he does, and they are likely to improve, which Moreno has shown he can't, over a very long period. Astounding that he's made a very good living as a professional footballer. He's like a 10% strength Riise (and I say that only in terms of them being equally monopodal).

Yep, surely the most important thing about Klopp is that he *has* "made us dream" again. Dream that we have a great chance of winning the league. Whether we do or not, we are back, thanks to him. Surely the best bit about being a supporter is having that - if you pin all your enjoyment on whether you win or not, you're in for a lot of disappointment, unless you're playing in a noddy league.

Yeah quite possibly, but Lovren is a centreback and so is on the pitch 95% to defend, to have an awareness of danger and stop it. Kind of the job description. I can forgive Gini and Trent the odd defensive aberration as they are there to do a lot more than stop stuff.

Totally agree - not worried about us as a team, just really p*ssed off that Lovren loses his head in high pressure games, regular as clockwork, and destroys the great defensive work that Robbo and VVD give us every game.

Was watching the game. And the giant stinking t*rd of a performance that Degsie has given us. Terrible back-passes, fluffed passes, losses of concentration. He's like the anti-Virgil.

I make it 9 significant mistakes from Lovren so far this match.

Was, surely? Since his knees (and everything else) has gone, I don't think he's anywhere near as quick. Guess we'll find out in about 35 minutes. F*ck.

Shouldn't the bloke thowing that elbow a) have given away a pen and a red b) be suspended for 3 games for violent conduct?

There aren't many players who can make Sokratis look like a weedy little streak of p*ss. But our Virgil is one of them. I imagined Sok running up the tunnel crying for his ma after VVD steps in.

Will never play for us again after that. Klopp never has a go at his players, so that's pretty damning.

Hadn't we also played more games than the team chasing - sure I remember that as a bit of a deceptive-sized lead?

F'kin hell. Starting to get properly nervous now. Unbelievable week for us. Klopp is a god.