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Recently there have been quite a few games with 6-7 minutes of added time and as a result also a lot of injury time goals that have turned games on its head.

 

But what are the rules for added time? I think I remember someone on here saying that substitutions and goals don't result in added time because they're "a natural part of the game" but I also hear people defending 6 minutes of injury time with "both teams made 3 subs" and the like.

 

It seems quite random at times. You can have players being treated on the pitch for minutes several times during the second half and still the ref will only add 3 minutes. In other games nothing out of the ordinary happens and you get 6 minutes.

 

What are the rules regarding this?

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What are the rules regarding this?

 

If Manchester United are losing, then take the correct amount of injury time and multiply by the numbers of goals they need to win the match.

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Another mockery yesterday. 5 minutes was pushing it in the first place, but the celebrations for N'Gog's goal went on for around a minute and the ref blew up straight after the restart.

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Another mockery yesterday. 5 minutes was pushing it in the first place, but the celebrations for N'Gog's goal went on for around a minute and the ref blew up straight after the restart.

 

It was 95.30 when he scored so it doesn't matter how long the celebrations went on for - that doesn't get added on, they just play what was left which in this case was nothing.

 

Although if the point you are trying to make is that him blowiing up was because United couldn't then get anything from the game then yes, I agree. That added time - and playing beyond it - was clearly influenced by United putting pressure on the officials. It happens so often it is the only explanation.

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Recently there have been quite a few games with 6-7 minutes of added time and as a result also a lot of injury time goals that have turned games on its head.

 

But what are the rules for added time? I think I remember someone on here saying that substitutions and goals don't result in added time because they're "a natural part of the game" but I also hear people defending 6 minutes of injury time with "both teams made 3 subs" and the like.

 

It seems quite random at times. You can have players being treated on the pitch for minutes several times during the second half and still the ref will only add 3 minutes. In other games nothing out of the ordinary happens and you get 6 minutes.

 

What are the rules regarding this?

 

It's 30 seconds per substitution and I think it's 30 seconds per goal too

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It's 30 seconds per substitution and I think it's 30 seconds per goal too

 

Thats what iv always thought too, but its also down to the referee's discretion naturally. It sometimes seems to be a mystery where they get the injury time from, maybe the ref's are just enjoying the match and want a bit longer in the spotlight.

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Remember seeing once, i think it was an ex-ref, saying that most refs dont actually stop their watch whenever the ball goes out of play, they just guesstimate as the game goes on and then at the end, they decide how much time has amassed throughout the game and put in a 'rough estimate' as the alloted period of added on time. The 'at their discretion' thing gives them a get-out now matter how wrong they get it.

 

Sounds seriously shoddy and random, to me.

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The professional game should have a time-keeper (fourth ref doesn't do much during games anyways) relieving the head ref of that duty, with the game clock visible for players, bench and spectators.

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They're not meant to stop the clock when the ball goes out of play. The ball is only active something like twenty minutes in the average half.

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They're not meant to stop the clock when the ball goes out of play. The ball is only active something like twenty minutes in the average half.

 

When i said out of play, i meant for things other than the usual throw ins, corners etc - i was referring more to injuries, substitutions, celebrations etc. It's done on guesswork and estimates apparently.

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When i said out of play, i meant for things other than the usual throw ins, corners etc - i was referring more to injuries, substitutions, celebrations etc. It's done on guesswork and estimates apparently.

Yeah, sorry, I should have copped that. Bottom line is Wiley was snared while playing time advantage to United's attackers and the retrospective explanation doesn't hold water. Oodles of injury time in all matches since, but it will probably calm down to the level it was at previously once the current climate blows over.

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Yeah, sorry, I should have copped that. Bottom line is Wiley was snared while playing time advantage to United's attackers and the retrospective explanation doesn't hold water. Oodles of injury time in all matches since, but it will probably calm down to the level it was at previously once the current climate blows over.

 

Probably true, similar to the 'respect campaign' that got Mascherano ludicrously sent off at Man Utd and the 'diving' madness that bizarrely got Eduardo banned and then unbanned again.

 

Typical 'fashionable' fads in football that last a couple of weeks and then die down.

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Remember seeing once, i think it was an ex-ref, saying that most refs dont actually stop their watch whenever the ball goes out of play, they just guesstimate as the game goes on and then at the end, they decide how much time has amassed throughout the game and put in a 'rough estimate' as the alloted period of added on time. The 'at their discretion' thing gives them a get-out now matter how wrong they get it.

 

Sounds seriously shoddy and random, to me.

it's always been at the ref's discretion. It's just now people are paying attention to it

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it's always been at the ref's discretion. It's just now people are paying attention to it

 

Surely that's complete randomisation of it. Shouldnt it be pretty much standard rather than at the mercy of refs, some of whom might be quite specific and accurate, whilst others may be somewhat more 'estimational' about it?

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