Martin O'Neill blabbering on again

[Andy @ Allerton]

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...64375-20889081/

 

I know there are certain Liverpool fans that thought Martin O'Neill would be a very good Liverpool FC Manager (I've certainly never ever been one of them)

 

But would you really want such a hotheaded reactionary, whining, classless person like this running our great club?

 

His jumping up and down and generally graceless persona is only bettered (Worsened) by Mourinho - do we really want to make our club into a Soap Opera of s**** with people like these two in charge?

 

Not sure what the view is - but since O'Neill has stepped up - nothing he's done has made me thought he's even worthy to go near the LFC Role.

[Guest Ant]

....Sigh

 

It's all mind games, he isn't classless he's trying to keep his best player.

 

We don't know what Benitez has or hasn't done, all we have is O'Neil's and Benitez's word to go by.

 

I've got nothing against O'Neil never have done, never will do.

 

He isn't classless Andy.

[Andy @ Allerton]

....Sigh

 

It's all mind games, he isn't classless he's trying to keep his best player.

 

We don't know what Benitez has or hasn't done, all we have is O'Neil's and Benitez's word to go by.

 

I've got nothing against O'Neil never have done, never will do.

 

He isn't classless Andy.

 

He is. He moans about Liverpool doing their stuff in public.

 

Then does his stuff in public.

 

He's a classless whining minger.

[Guest Ant]

Fighting fire with fire.

 

Nothing wrong with it.

[Andy @ Allerton]

Fighting fire with fire.

 

Nothing wrong with it.

 

 

So in the future if O'Neill became our manager you'd be happy with that would you?

[Guest Ant]

So in the future if O'Neill became our manager you'd be happy with that would you?

 

It's purely hypothetical and it doesn't look likely he will ever become our manager.

 

I wouldn't want him based on ability now.

 

Had he been given the position when Houllier left, I wouldn't have minded, I mean I have to admit I didn't know much about Benitez when he came, but I was all for Mourinho during that time.

 

But he isn't classless Andy.

[Andy @ Allerton]

It's purely hypothetical and it doesn't look likely he will ever become our manager.

 

I wouldn't want him based on ability now.

 

Had he been given the position when Houllier left, I wouldn't have minded, I mean I have to admit I didn't know much about Benitez when he came, but I was all for Mourinho during that time.

 

But he isn't classless Andy.

 

In what way isn't he classless?

[Dee]

In what way isn't he classless?

a better question is in what was is he classless?

 

M O'Neill has a proven record in the premiership - he is good with players, he motivates them, he gets good results, he did well with Leicester and with Celtic.

 

He's feeling threatened by another club poaching his captain. Liverpool was the same when Stevie was been sniffed at by Chelsea.

 

Out of all the managers I think MoN is a gentleman, he's articulate, intelligent, compassionate and good for the game.

[Andy @ Allerton]

a better question is in what was is he classless?

 

M O'Neill has a proven record in the premiership - he is good with players, he motivates them, he gets good results, he did well with Leicester and with Celtic.

 

He's feeling threatened by another club poaching his captain. Liverpool was the same when Stevie was been sniffed at by Chelsea.

 

Out of all the managers I think MoN is a gentleman, he's articulate, intelligent, compassionate and good for the game.

 

Not how I think of him. Mostly when I see him - he looks like a 5 year old having a tantrum. Spends most of his press conferences whining, complaining and muttering. And flies off the handle at the slightest thing.

 

I'm not sure that would be anything I'd want near our club.

 

I'm sure in person he's a decent fella - and for other, lesser teams I can see he might fit in. But for LFC? Methinks not.

 

If he hadn't been linked (Usually by our Irish followers it appears) to us when a Managerial Berth became available then I probably wouldn't mind him so much. It's when I think of him up to his antics in charge of a club like us that I think NO NO NO NO NO!

 

Just isn't LFC Material.

 

In the same way Mourinho isn't - he might have been 'successful'* with Chelsea - but would you really want someone like that representing our great club? I certainly wouldn't. It's a rare job in football, the LFC Role. And mostly we've had calm, measured, reasonable people there that have done the club and the City fine.

 

 

*If you consider giving someone nigh on half a billion quid winning the league as 'successful'

[D.Boon]

See nothing wrong with O'Neils behaviour. He is doing whats best for him and his club.

[Billy Dane]

a better question is in what was is he classless?

 

 

really?

[Andy @ Allerton]

See nothing wrong with O'Neils behaviour. He is doing whats best for him and his club.

 

 

He may be. And those kind of actions are fine for smaller clubs (He's actually done the 'Barry thing' with some of his other clubs when he felt he wasn't getting enough cash)

 

My point is that for a smaller club like Villa - these actions may be fine. But would you really want our manager acting in the same manner?

 

He actually reminds me very much of Neil Warnock. You could argue that Warnock, like O'Neill, does things which is best for him and his club. You can argue that Warnock, like O'Neill is passionate and wears his heart on his sleeve. You could argue that Warnock, Like O'Neill does his best to engineer situations by his outbursts which help him and his club.

 

But I wouldn't want Warnock anywhere near our club either.

[Dee]

Not how I think of him. Mostly when I see him - he looks like a 5 year old having a tantrum. Spends most of his press conferences whining, complaining and muttering. And flies off the handle at the slightest thing.

that could be any football manager..

 

I think it's a pretty classless thing to call Martin O'Neill classless

 

 

and if you are looking for class - see how he handled his position at Celtic when his wife was ill with cancer...

[Andy @ Allerton]

that could be any football manager..

 

I think it's a pretty classless thing to call Martin O'Neill classless

and if you are looking for class - see how he handled his position at Celtic when his wife was ill with cancer...

 

 

Yes that must have been very difficult for him. Although I don't like him at all as a manager I've nothing against him as a person.

 

 

But I disagree I can't think of any of our managers in recent years (Apart from maybe Souness) that would act in such a manner as O'Neill or Warnock.

Edited May 10, 2008 by Andy @ Allerton

[Dee]

really?

ah oops - spot the typo

 

was = way

[Dee]

Yes that must have been very difficult for him. Although I don't like him at all as a manager I've nothing against him as a person.

But I disagree I can't think of any of our managers in recent years (Apart from maybe Souness) that would act in such a manner as O'Neill or Warnock.

well to call him classless is low

[Cunny]

O'Neill has done nothing wrong.

Rafa has run his mouth off about conversations between the two and O'Neill has responded.

I'm not happy with the way Rafa has conducted himself in this to be honest.

 

If Roberto Mancini said "I have spoken to Benitez about Gerrard, he knows my idea, I know his, we'll speak again."

I'd be furious, as would everyone else. If Rafa then came out and said Mancini is crazy and exagerating the level of contact between the two, he'd be applauded by everyone on here, including by you Andy.

[Andy @ Allerton]

O'Neill has done nothing wrong.

Rafa has run his mouth off about conversations between the two and O'Neill has responded.

I'm not happy with the way Rafa has conducted himself in this to be honest.

 

If Roberto Mancini said "I have spoken to Benitez about Gerrard, he knows my idea, I know his, we'll speak again."

I'd be furious, as would everyone else. If Rafa then came out and said Mancini is crazy and exagerating the level of contact between the two, he'd be applauded by everyone on here, including by you Andy.

 

 

I'm not sure about that.

 

And I don't believe that Rafa would say anything. I'm sure he has private disagreements all the time and he appears to quite quiet.

 

I can't remember him kicking off about Gerrard although Chelsea (And others were sniffing around and actively trying to poach them)

 

Every time we play Chelsea in fact they seem to try and destabalise the team and Rafa (in public) ignores it. Which to my mind is the way to go about things.

 

If Rafa HAD reacted like O'Neill has then to be honest I would think he had completely lost the plot. In what way does running to the papers whining help the situation? Do you really believe that Barry or Gerrard reads the papers and makes their mind up depending on what was said or what was written.

 

I have to completely disagree. I would say that players decide their future by consulting their agents and advisors and looking at whatever it is they are trying to achieve at the time.

 

This public whining doesn't make O'Neill look good and it doesn't make Villa look good.

 

Rafa said he had spoken to O'Neill. O'Neill has confirmed this.

 

Rafa said that O'Neill knew what his ideas were. As O'Neill has confirmed they spoke I can only assume that Rafa used some words in those conversations rather than just going 'la la la la la la la' for 20 minutes.

[Guz]

He's feeling threatened by another club poaching his captain. Liverpool was the same when Stevie was been sniffed at by Chelsea.

 

As a fanbase yes, the club in the public eye certainly didn't. Rafa didn't go crazy at Mourinho or Chelsea in public. Infact we did nothing and just sat back publically and tried to sort it between ourselves and Gerrard in private.

 

Rafa has dropped it in public (he never brought up in the first place) but O'Neill obviously doesn't want to. Two weeks in a row he's had a rant about us and Benitez and all stemming from a newspaper article ffs.

 

It's not really lacking class and I don't particularly care but just find it a bit stupid really. There was a chance to drop it in public but he refused to take it. Obviously he's desperate to keep Barry but it looks like he's also looking to drum up interest from other potential parties like Arsenal or Chelsea. I dont blame O'Neill for doing it I guess but we never did that with Gerrard.

 

If Rafa HAD reacted like O'Neill has then to be honest I would think he had completely lost the plot.

 

Dont think I or many of our fans would think that to be honest but the papers etc. would. Most neutrals etc would be talking about Gerrard's desire to win trophies, captain the national side, not going anywhere with Liverpool etc etc.

Edited May 10, 2008 by Guz

[Andy @ Allerton]

well to call him classless is low

 

I certainly wouldn't want me managing the side either.

[NWR]

He is. He moans about Liverpool doing their stuff in public.

 

Then does his stuff in public.

 

He's a classless whining minger.

 

Some people feel that Benitez washing his dirty linen in public (Re owners) made him a classless t***.

 

What are your views?

[Sion]

Some people feel that Benitez washing his dirty linen in public (Re owners) made him a classless t***.

 

What are your views?

 

And right on cue here's a manc with the 'but what about you' post to show us in his infinate wisdom how we're all biased. Good job we have you around.

[Sion]

Some people feel that Benitez washing his dirty linen in public (Re owners) made him a classless t***.

 

What are your views?

 

And right on cue here's a manc with the 'but what about you' post to show us in his infinate wisdom how we're all biased. Good job we have you around.

[Andy @ Allerton]

Some people feel that Benitez washing his dirty linen in public (Re owners) made him a classless t***.

 

What are your views?

 

 

Bit of a different situation I think. It seemed clear that Rafa felt his job as at risk and recent events seem to have borne that out.

 

Looking back it seems that he had the best interests of the club in his thoughts.

[NWR]

Bit of a different situation I think. It seemed clear that Rafa felt his job as at risk and recent events seem to have borne that out.

 

Looking back it seems that he had the best interests of the club in his thoughts.

 

Which is what MON is doing.

 

He wants to keep his Captain and possibly best player, improve the standing of his club and not be a feeder club to the top 4