When I was a young lad

[Murphman]

I used to envy all my scouse cousins who were older wiser and had this every week.

 

[fyds]

Oh we were Murph...

 

Just to the right of that plummy voiced southern nonce with the microphone, in the bottom left hand corner looking out from the Kop (not far from where I sit now with my daughter), was a young Fyds who used to love joining in with the Beatles songs (and - er - the occassional Cilla one). In a small world kind of way, the No.5 for Arsenal that day was Ian Ure - his daughter Mandy is a fine arts lecturer and former colleague - a great laugh.

[Mad_Fer_It]

The crowd was very gay.

[£440,000]

There were less bald fellas then.

 

'gay ferocity'

[Murphman]

Oh we were Murph...

 

Just to the right of that plummy voiced southern nonce with the microphone, in the bottom left hand corner looking out from the Kop (not far from where I sit now with my daughter), was a young Fyds who used to love joining in with the Beatles songs (and - er - the occassional Cilla one). In a small world kind of way, the No.5 for Arsenal that day was Ian Ure - his daughter Mandy is a fine arts lecturer and former colleague - a great laugh.

 

 

Ian Ure (ine), bloody hopeless, had a memorable scrap with Denis Law if memory serves me correctly.

 

How dodgy does the flying pig look in that clip fyds, and check out the young Cally, how much would he be worth now? Who was he like in today's game, I'd say a more attack minded Steve Finan

[dorgie]

"When I was a young lad, living down south"........it was 1964/65 Murph......you can't have been that young !

 

 

[Murphman]

"When I was a young lad, living down south"........it was 1964/65 Murph......you can't have been that young !

 

 

I wasn't born, my knowledge is second hand.

[libero]

Fyds and Murph havin a chin wag....

[fyds]

Ian Ure (ine), bloody hopeless, had a memorable scrap with Denis Law if memory serves me correctly.

 

How dodgy does the flying pig look in that clip fyds, and check out the young Cally, how much would he be worth now? Who was he like in today's game, I'd say a more attack minded Steve Finan

The pitch was nothing like the same quality as today, and if (as is probably the case in this incident) it rained over night, the big old leather ball would weigh about 4-5 pounds before half time - keeping hold of low bouncy shots in those condtions without modern keeper gloves was a bugger. Lawrence was incredibly good at that normally and was the first keeper I remember seeing wearing gloves - these green 'marigold' type thing with grippy bits on the finger tips.

 

Cally was special at that age - he could dribble better than most here would believe and was an excellent shooter and crosser of the ball. He would just not stop - all afternoon, run, chase, tackle, break - terrific. I'm loathe to compare him to anyone today as the game has changed so much, but if pushed - there are similarities of sorts between him and Alves when Alves isn't pissing about. Finnan has aspects of Cally's game, but is less all action, more a measured player and is after all, a full defender - Alves tends to occupy that twilight space between attack/midfield/defence as if he isn't sure where he's supposed to be - Cally did the same, with the knowledge that Smith and Lawler were behind and occassionally in front of him.

 

Value - take whatever the market says Aaron Lennon is worth and add £6-7m.

 

Fyds and Murph havin a chin wag....

Looks like we've been on a scottish diet, though...

Edited June 10, 2007 by fyds

[oakie bob]

before my time you old git

[NWR]

I used to envy all my scouse cousins who were older wiser and had this every week.

 

 

Scousers looked quite normal in them days.

 

I bet there was no trouble as I failed to spot a single replica shirt.

[fyds]

before my time you old git

Thanks to your drink addled brain, anything more than 20 minutes ago is 'before your time'...

 

Scousers looked quite normal in them days.

 

I bet there was no trouble as I failed to spot a single replica shirt.

Yeah - we used to stand there laughing and joking before the game, belring out in unison hits from groups of the merseybeat generation, the Beatles, Gerry and The Pacemakers, Billy Fury, Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas, The Searchers...then again I'm sure your lot were doing something similar singing songs by the famous manchester bands such as the...er...and...oh....right.

 

Welol Gracie Fields was from Rochdale, which wasn't too far away....

[Guz]

Something I've never really grasped, how much did the Anfield crowd change from 1964 to 1984?

 

That clip always makes me smile. I find it hilarious seeing that old fella with half a head of hair singing along to a beatles tune while jostling for some terrace space with lads from around 18 (?) to those in their 60s, maybe older. It's fantastic.

 

Did that still happen in the 80s or since the early 70s has there been a general trend for the "having fun but looking like a tart" kind of fun on the kop to be restricted to a younger age group?

[fyds]

The general feel of it never really changed beyond that of the whole nation as a fashion-culture ethic right up until it became all seater. I stood more or less at the same point on the kop roughly between 1963 right up until the seats went in. At first, with my older adoptive brither and his mates and some regulars of all ages - when my brother got married, with the same guys who had stood there since '63. It only changed if someone moved away, died or that kind of thing. Everyone knew you'd be coming and your 'space' would generally be looked out for by these men and women who may not even have known your name. You'd see the same people every game. Everyone sang or shouted - the older guys (especially the dockers and bus drivers) could be among the worst.

 

I loved it, the singing, swaying - the mad rush and 'collapse' when the ball went over the other side or in the net...it wasn't until Hillsborough that many of us realised how bloody dangerous it really was. Most games at least half a dozen people would get passed over the heads of the crowd to the St John's ambulance lads as they'ed fainted or been unable to breathe. It was a different time - that's all.

[Leo No.8]

Here's Murph as a young lad living down South, with his mates.

 

 

They used to go clubbin...

[Murphman]

Here's Murph as a young lad living down South, with his mates.

 

 

They used to go clubbin...

 

 

The haircut in the middle isn't that far off mine circa 1971 as it goes.

[fyds]

Stick on a budgie shirt, a pair of purple loons, some Foster Grants and baseball boots and I might have been the one on the right....

Edited June 11, 2007 by fyds

[berdoing]

Stan Boardman there, if you can spot him.

[R A Softlad]

The haircut in the middle isn't that far off mine circa 1971 as it goes.

 

That B.C.?

[mally]

The haircut in the middle isn't that far off mine circa 1971 as it goes.

 

how f***in' old ARE you?

[libero]

how f***in' old ARE you?

 

A couple of years older than methesula.

[mooks]

I used to envy all my scouse cousins who were older wiser and had this every week.

 

Just curious, did the Everton crowd sing Beatles tunes also?

[Leo No.8]

how f***in' old ARE you?

 

Put it this way - he got that haircut circa 1971 and bought a Harley Davidson when he was having a mid-life crisis...

Edited June 12, 2007 by Leo No.8

[Murphman]

how f***in' old ARE you?

 

 

The same age as FYDS, younger than Portly, Sniffer and Oakie Bob.

(I lied about Oakie Bob but you wouldn't know from the photo's ).

[Ripley]

Thanks to your drink addled brain, anything more than 20 minutes ago is 'before your time'...

Yeah - we used to stand there laughing and joking before the game, belring out in unison hits from groups of the merseybeat generation, the Beatles, Gerry and The Pacemakers, Billy Fury, Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas, The Searchers...then again I'm sure your lot were doing something similar singing songs by the famous manchester bands such as the...er...and...oh....right.

 

Welol Gracie Fields was from Rochdale, which wasn't too far away....

Billy Fury was not of the Merseybeat generation. He preceded them.

 

The Manchester lot would have had The Hollies, for starters, who were better than any of the list apart from the obvious one.