MOTM

[Hieronymus Bosch]

Like most of BBC's sporting coverage - cack. Again, brief Liverpool highlights immediately followed by another game's, and when it came to the panel's insightful reflection, we get completely ignored in favour of Charlton v Boro (Lawrenson impressively maintaining vow of silence). Absolutely pony TV - how they manage to make a programme covering the day's top-flight football so pap is anyone's guess. Bring back The Premiership...

[Stevie H]

do you mean MOTD?

[Knox_Harrington]

Don't know about that to be fair to them. Our game was broadcast live, relatively free of incident and the expected result.

 

Generally speaking it's nowhere near as good as it should be.

[Hieronymus Bosch]

do you mean MOTD?

 

Fo sho - losing it massively...

[gkmacca]

It was a nothing match if you weren't a supporter, and, if you were a fan, you'd seen the whole match live at the stadium or on TV. What did you expect? Murdoch's Sky Sports overkill? The BBC is vastly more admirable as a broadcaster, but thanks to the lack of perspective that's been cultivated at Sky, everyone seems to crave an hour of 'punditry' before a match and another hour afterwards. Most of the so-called 'innovations' Sky Sports is credited with are merely developments of technical ideas originated by the BBC on MOTD and Sportsnight. The rest is just over-indulgence, witlessness (what songs were playing when these two sides played ten years ago?' Who gives a feck!) and Richard Key's pompous 'we matter more than you' blatherings.

[realtarragona]

I think fans of nearly every team in the league moan about their coverage on MOTD.

Edited January 14, 2007 by realtarragona

[Stevie H]

It was a nothing match if you weren't a supporter, and, if you were a fan, you'd seen the whole match live at the stadium or on TV. What did you expect? Murdoch's Sky Sports overkill? The BBC is vastly more admirable as a broadcaster, but thanks to the lack of perspective that's been cultivated at Sky, everyone seems to crave an hour of 'punditry' before a match and another hour afterwards. Most of the so-called 'innovations' Sky Sports is credited with are merely developments of technical ideas originated by the BBC on MOTD and Sportsnight. The rest is just over-indulgence, witlessness (what songs were playing when these two sides played ten years ago?' Who gives a feck!) and Richard Key's pompous 'we matter more than you' blatherings.

good post. match of the day is still pathetic, though. they need to drop the old boys' club bonhomie and back-slapping and go back to something resembling a professionally produced, presented and broadcast football review show. get rid of the mugging lineker and replace him with an interesting, witty and capable presenter such as james richardson. have at least one, preferably two, non-ex-footballers on the panel. freshen the damn thing up because at the moment you feel like lineker, hansen and shearer are just going through the motions so that they can nip off to the bar and regale each other with war stories and lawrenson doesn't have anything better to do while he contemplates which method of suicide he's going to attempt this week.

[smithdown]

Funny watching old "match ofs..." on the espn channel. All of the punditry comes from the strange mind of Jimmy Hill who, if something quite newsworthy has happened, sits alone behind his desk, fixes the camera with a concerned look and says "and if I may be so bold to offer MY opinion...". Go ed Jim, there's no other fecker about gonna tell us the true nature of how the universe can move on from this moment, when the west brom full back took that free kick when the arsenal weren't ready...

 

It's only now I realise why all the grown-ups hated him so much.

[Hieronymus Bosch]

It was a nothing match if you weren't a supporter, and, if you were a fan, you'd seen the whole match live at the stadium or on TV. What did you expect? Murdoch's Sky Sports overkill? The BBC is vastly more admirable as a broadcaster, but thanks to the lack of perspective that's been cultivated at Sky, everyone seems to crave an hour of 'punditry' before a match and another hour afterwards. Most of the so-called 'innovations' Sky Sports is credited with are merely developments of technical ideas originated by the BBC on MOTD and Sportsnight. The rest is just over-indulgence, witlessness (what songs were playing when these two sides played ten years ago?' Who gives a feck!) and Richard Key's pompous 'we matter more than you' blatherings.

 

No, I don't expect, nor want, Sky Sports' "overkill". I just want MOTD to be better than what it is. Personally, I enjoy informed insight after the game. The fact we rarely get any or, in yesterday's case, got none, is what gets my goat. Of course I watched the match yesterday, but I don't think MOTD have a policy of concentrating on those games not broadcast. As well as detailed highlights (detailed in so far as they show the main action), I wouldn't mind a bit of intelligent analysis afterwards. We don't tend to get much of that on MOTD (or on most others shows, to be honest) these days.

[Stevie H]

No, I don't expect, nor want, Sky Sports' "overkill". I just want MOTD to be better than what it is. Personally, I enjoy informed insight after the game. The fact we rarely get any or, in yesterday's case, got none, is what gets my goat. Of course I watched the match yesterday, but I don't think MOTD have a policy of concentrating on those games not broadcast. As well as detailed highlights (detailed in so far as they show the main action), I wouldn't mind a bit of intelligent analysis afterwards. We don't tend to get much of that on MOTD (or on most others shows, to be honest) these days.

it's not exclusive to LFC though. the panellists on there trot out pretty much the same cliches about every club every week and dress it up as 'analysis'.

[Hieronymus Bosch]

it's not exclusive to LFC though. the panellists on there trot out pretty much the same cliches about every club every week and dress it up as 'analysis'.

 

Absolutely. With a couple of notable exceptions (in my bitter opinion)

[Spoone]

I think theres some sort of contractural thng that MOTD can only show short higlighs of pay per view games. Could be wrong though.

 

On the other hand, i definetely can't stand Lawrenson...his analysis of the chelsea gamme last night just repeated what Motson has said in the commentary, now that is sinking quite low.

[gkmacca]

I quite agree about Lineker, but otherwise the BBC provides a sense of grown-up, worldly perspective as an antidote to the silly 24-hour flattened hysteria on Sky. I saw the absurd bunch of failed whelk salesmen on Sky's 'Jimmy Hill's Sunday Supplement' this morning, when some buffoon was allowed to waffle on about the wonders of Chelski and 'J.T.' while someone else announced how Benitez was disliked by his directors and didn't want to win matches. MOTD drives me crazy sometimes, particularly when we're on so late, but I much prefer the brief analysis to the waffle on Sky. It reminds you that, to most people, most games aren't that important. Sky tries to convince you that every game deserves the neck-vein bulging hysteria of a Cup Final, even Charlton's, and, quite frankly, it doesn't.

Edited January 14, 2007 by gkmacca

[Zoob]

MOTD is much, much worse than it used to be - silly little boy's jokes, and cliches galore. What really bothers me about the coverage of Liverpool, is how they seem to have little or no analysis when we win (even if - unlike yesterday - we played really well) but gleefully go into analysis overkill (...zonal marking and rotation...) if we lose.

[Raj]

I saw the absurd bunch of failed whelk salesmen on Sky's 'Jimmy Hill's Sunday Supplement' this morning, when some buffoon was allowed to waffle on about the wonders of Chelski and 'J.T.' while someone else announced how Benitez was disliked by his directors and didn't want to win matches.

 

That was bizarre. I couldnt believe that t**, who said that he asked a Liverpool director after we had lost to Utd at Old Trafford, when he was going to ask Benitez to resign. What a f***ing prick. Basically dismissing Benitez as uninspiring and not very good.

s***house.

[Hobbsie]

I used to like Strachan's involvement on MOTD2, at times he actually showed some proper analysis, unfortunately that was the only good point..

[Stevie H]

I used to like Strachan's involvement on MOTD2, at times he actually showed some proper analysis, unfortunately that was the only good point..

MOTD2 is just a better show altogether. chiles is a better presenter than lineker, the links to each match are usually better put together and the analysis is generally a bit more considered.

 

why they feel the need to make MOTD some flippant in-jokefest i don't know.

[Poolfrog]

It was a nothing match if you weren't a supporter, and, if you were a fan, you'd seen the whole match live at the stadium or on TV. What did you expect? Murdoch's Sky Sports overkill? The BBC is vastly more admirable as a broadcaster, but thanks to the lack of perspective that's been cultivated at Sky, everyone seems to crave an hour of 'punditry' before a match and another hour afterwards. Most of the so-called 'innovations' Sky Sports is credited with are merely developments of technical ideas originated by the BBC on MOTD and Sportsnight. The rest is just over-indulgence, witlessness (what songs were playing when these two sides played ten years ago?' Who gives a feck!) and Richard Key's pompous 'we matter more than you' blatherings.

Not that old chestnut please. It's not Murdoch's Sky. News International only has about 37% or thereabouts, of Sky shares - and the BBC is a disgrace on just about any measure you care to mention - Match of the Day just being a tiny part. For all its shortcomings Sky is easily the better football network. Football on the BBC is as leaden and ponderous as it was when Jimmy Hill was on it. It hasn't changed a bit.

[sean]

You lads need Dunphy, Giles and Brady. MOTD is unwatchable, and has been for some time.

[gkmacca]

Not that old chestnut please. It's not Murdoch's Sky. News International only has about 37% or thereabouts, of Sky shares - and the BBC is a disgrace on just about any measure you care to mention - Match of the Day just being a tiny part. For all its shortcomings Sky is easily the better football network. Football on the BBC is as leaden and ponderous as it was when Jimmy Hill was on it. It hasn't changed a bit.

 

What tosh. The BBC has done more for broadcasting than BskyB ever will. As for poor little Rupert not having much of a say:

 

News UK nominees Limited (a subsidiary of News Corporation) 38.36%

Franklin Resources Inc 10.00%

Janus Capital Management LLC 3.86%

Barclays PLC 3.85%

Brandes Investment Partners LP. 3.12%

The Capital Group Companies Inc 3.10%

FMR Corp. and Fidelity International Limited 3.06%

Harris Associates L.P. 3.03%

 

Yeah, it's a wonder his various sons and daughters managed the fluke of getting top jobs at the company.