This sucks

[Dominus Maximus]

Lets say Germany beat Ecuador, Then England know they have to beat Sweden to play Ecuador. Or let's say Ecuador beat Germany. Then England could lose on purpose to play Ecuador. This is all examples, but shouldn't the pairs play at the same time? Anything else sucks.

 

The next round is guess is

 

1a-2b

2a-1b

 

ect ect...

 

There could be a lot of speculation here...

[Ostrich Man]

and lose TV money.....

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

The only way to solve this is to have all of the group games played at the same time

[Gilps]

Part of me can?t help but think a line up selected and instructed by Eriksson to deliberately lose would in fact end up clicking like no recent England team and romping to 5-0 win.

[Dominus Maximus]

No just to have

AB-

CD-

EF-

GH-

played at the same time.

[_00_deathscar]

Part of me can?t help but think a line up selected and instructed by Eriksson to deliberately lose would in fact end up clicking like no recent England team and romping to 5-0 win.

 

Yea I can deffo see that happening

[Gilps]

No just to have

AB-

CD-

EF-

GH-

played at the same time.

 

So 4 games played simultaneously instead of two? That'll hardly please international TV audieces, never mind the TV companes.

[Dominus Maximus]

Though Break. At least it would be fair. That or wait until all of the groups are finished, and then make a draw for the cup stage of the tourny. That would spark media interest.

[Gilps]

It has always been like this though. You could argue that teams wanting to avoid certain others in the next round is more likely to create final group matches with something riding on them than would be the case otherwise.

[Lee W]

Part of me can?t help but think a line up selected and instructed by Eriksson to deliberately lose would in fact end up clicking like no recent England team and romping to 5-0 win.

 

 

With Gerrard in goal probably - just to shackle him even more.

[Coyler]

It's better this way, Fate always has the option of punishing the team that tries to be devious, and if she exercises that option, it's delicious to see.

 

Most recent example is United in the Champions' League.

Edited June 20, 2006 by Coyler

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

This way beats the Austria-Germany fiasco of 1982 though.

 

And what about the last Euros, where Denmark - Sweden (?) 2-2 was the only result which guaranteed both teams qualify at Italy's expense. Guess what?

[aka Dus]

This playing to gain/avoid a particular draw theory is over-exagerrated.

 

Playing in 2nd gear because you know you're already qualified is one thing, but trying to get yourself a better draw is much more difficult to achieve and regardless of the exception that proves the rule normally futile.

[Coyler]

This way beats the Austria-Germany fiasco of 1982 though.

 

And what about the last Euros, where Denmark - Sweden (?) 2-2 was the only result which guaranteed both teams qualify at Italy's expense. Guess what?

That was great! What was the stat about that particular scoreline, wasn't it the rarest scoreline in Euro history or something, only one 2-2 ever before that?

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

This playing to gain/avoid a particular draw theory is over-exagerrated.

 

Playing in 2nd gear because you know you're already qualified is one thing, but trying to get yourself a better draw is much more difficult to achieve and regardless of the exception that proves the rule normally futile.

Plus - you should look further down the line. An 'easy' R2 game can often equal a mare in the QF

[Gilps]

Plus - you should look further down the line. An 'easy' R2 game can often equal a mare in the QF

 

Exactly. The 2nd place team in England's group would probably get argentina in the QF. Hardly worth avoiding Germany for. Which looks unlikely now anyway them leading 2-0.

[harpoon]

could see Italy and the Czechs conveniently drawing for the same reason the Swedes and Danes did the 2-2.

 

my bad, forgot about the Ghanaians beating the yanks...

Edited June 20, 2006 by harpoon

[Gravy]

So Germany v Argentina in the QF's probably. That would be a hell of a game IMO.

[Gilps]

So Germany v Argentina in the QF's probably. That would be a hell of a game IMO.

 

The Germans will get t******.