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Sorry! Proof? Go on then, give it to me. I provided proof in my answer. Stop acting the bell. Its easy to say look closer to home. Proof? Come on, dont wait for help

Yes but you have Andy in your corner.

I am with you on this one.

Although United, like the others in the "Big 4" do seem to get away with a lot more than the lesser teams, dont you ever think that all this United and their management and their fans get away with everything s**** is a kind of attempt to cover the facts. The facts being that United do win a lot. BTW any United fans vandalising grounds, towns should be banned for life. Just my opinion.

Well I hope he is laughing his socks off. Benitez rant looked very staged and prepared. I hope it all ends now because I would like him to sort our attack out.

Sorry if you see everything as a windup attempt. I suppose its in keeping with the perceived view of scousers and their belief in conspiracy theories against them. I have looked around and it seems other forums and media are split 50/50 on this. Because I believe in my manager it does not make me a dullard or a thick c***, just because you believe Bennyboy is right it does not mean its so because every c*** on here agrees with you. It is a Liverpool forum ffs. It is not a windup when I say I believe that Liverpool will blow it leaving either United or Chelsea as Champions (Chelsea imo) and I suspect people will point to this rant as the cause. Like I said, its my opinion and not fact. So do you think Fergie is skulking at home or laughing his f***ing socks off?

Can I just ask a question? Are you a girl? I am just interested.

You will see it how you see it. You will probably ignore the "He has lost it " comments and focus on the "He is fighting back" comments. Who cares what you or the rest here think? Fergie? Nah! I love the way you think nothing goes your way. Lets just wait and see. I think the pressure is getting to him. Time will tell.

Bitter c***. Its like saying "The fixture list is fixed" Most people think Bennyboy has lost the plot. You lot will stick by your man and what you call class would be "Lost the plot " if it were any other manager. Only time will tell, so lets see eh? If you dont win the title now then the media and the world will point to this rant and say he lost the plot and threw the title away to the great man Fergie. If you win the title then they will say it was an inspired moment. Obviously I am backing Fergie. Love it.

Did you? I didnt. The place buzzed whenever he came on. I always knew he would turn out to be something special. Its today that I think he is a waste of space.

You would think like that because you are not 12. I thought we were very very poor. My lad thought we played ok and when we played him the Fergie interview he looked at me like Fergie didnt know what he was talking about. He is 19 as well. Nani has never lived up to expectations and this is compounded by his diving and play acting. Anderson looks a great prospect although is going through a bad patch at the moment. He needs to score a goal.

Now if ever a squad needed changing that was it. It certainly was not called one of the big 4. In big Rons last season or two I cant remember much of the games because I was so pissed. The piss up in the pub before the game was the best part of the day out. North Wales Reds supporters club or NWR. In the summer before Fergie took over I had had enough and gave up my season ticket as I promised when my first was born. Lucky if I get to 5 games a season now.

You see when people post stuff like this and I agree I tend not to bother getting involved. Its when people on here post utter s**** that I tend to post s**** back. Feel free to say I post s**** all the time, but this is afterall a Liverpool forum so what do you really expect from me. Gone are the days when I was known as a reasonable manc, and thats because there are so many muppets who just come back with abuse. f*** em all. BTW the Caf is the same. Good post Carra

You are having a laugh? There is nobody worse than Liverpool fans for twisting the figures to suit them. Net? I never heard of net being mentioned untill Benitez said it and you all jumped on the bandwagon. Does Andy ever mention the £16 mil we got for Stam or what we got for RVN, Beckham? Does he or the rest of you hell as like. Who are you on the caf anyway? Why did Benitez have to change the whole squad when he got here? Has Big Phil at Chelsea. Does anyone? A few new players yes but the whole lot? Are you saying GH had bought nothing but s***? You seemed happy with what you had when he was in charge and known as Le God. Is it just that if Benny does not like them he pisses them off? He seems to do that with a lot of players he has bought 12 months later. I know he fluked a CL cup but how has he improved on GH league positions so far? Over to you

That is very true but you would have laughed if I had put Fletch. Carrick is very good at sticking a toe in and breaking up their play as well as being creative. Like Alonso he is an alrounder?

What does "seriously" mean?

Why is it a wind up attempt? That is my list If I wanted to wind you lot up then that would be very simple. # Lets face it, look at the lists above. Carra best centre back? b******s Torres best striker in the world? One season wonder so far. Mascherano? Oh please!

...and if your list is the best players in the world it just shows how weak football is today or why nobody is taking this thread seriously. Centre back??? GOALKEEPER Casillas RIGHT BACK Maicon LEFT BACK Evra CENTRE BACK Rio DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER Carrick ATTACKING MIDFIELDER Kaka RIGHT MIDFIELD Messi LEFT MIDFIELD Ronaldo FORWARD Rooney

I dont think I have disputed that. I just dispute Andy`s claims that Liverpool cant compete with United, Chelsea and Arsenal when it comes to spending. £190 million is a lot of money and I would think pretty close to what United and Chelsea have spent in the same period. You have a massive squad compared to other teams including Chelsea. The problem with buying more players for less money rather than less players for more money is the so called squad players are not too good. I know you are top at the moment but it is not in the bag yet and you could just end up in 3rd again if you lose the likes of Gerrard, Alonso and Torres again. Earl Hafler... I got the list off a Liverpool website. Mascherano is on there twice, once as a loan move and then when you bought him, so yes I did read it.

It was a reply to Andy and his so called United mates who think we dont spend much money. It is also true that like his United mates Andy does not think Liverpool can compete with United and Chelsea when it comes to spending money. Truth is that Liverpool spend just as much money but on more players. What I have nioticed with him (Andy) is that NET only seems to apply to Liverpool. Carry on chaps and feel free to be abusive.

Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 26.07.2004 Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000* 17.08.2004 Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20.08.2004 Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20.08.2004 Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 05.01.2005 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13.01.2005 Scott Carson Leeds United £1,000,000 21.01.2005 Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 04.07.2005 Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free* 04.07.2005 Jose Reina Villareal £6,000,000 04.07.2005 Mohamed Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14.07.2005 Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20.07.2005 Godwin Antwi Real Zaragoza Unknown 15.08.2005 Miki Roque Lleida Unknown 15.08.2005 Jack Hobbs Lincoln City £150,000* 18.08.2005 Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000* 22.08.2005 Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000* 20.10.2005 Paul Anderson Hull City Player Exchange* 01.01.2006 Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange* 04.01.2006 Daniel Agger Brøndby £5,800,000 12.01.2006 David Martin MK Dons £250,000* 12.01.2006 Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27.01.2006 Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 01.07.2006 Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2,000,000 04.07.2006 Fábio Aurélio Valencia Free 05.07.2006 Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26.07.2006 Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18.08.2006 Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21.08.2006 Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000* 11.01.2007 Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan* 12.01.2007 Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed* 24.01.2007 Francisco Durán Malaga £66,000* 30.01.2007 Ronald Huth Tacuary FC Undisclosed 31.01.2007 Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31.01.2007 Javier Mascherano West Ham On Loan 20.02.2007 Lucas Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 11.05.2007 Mikel San José Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28.06.2007 Sebastian Leto Club Atlético Lanús £1,800,000 01.07.2007 Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 04.07.2007 Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free* 06.07.2007 Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12.07.2007 Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13.07.2007 Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 09.08.2007 Emiliano Insúa Boca Juniors £1,300,000* 26.08.2007 Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11.01.2008 Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £17,000,000 29.02.2008 Philipp Degen Dortmund Free* 03.07.2008 Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 04.07.2008 Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11.07.2008 David Ngog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24.07.2008 Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000* 28.07.2008 Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31.08.2008 Rafael Benítez bought 52 players for £190,616,000 Where are they now?

You are a scouser.

Lets see if it works, but you are spot on.

For the same amount of money liverpool have bought a list that is 3 times longer. Does net only count for Liverpool? Oh yes.. You and I andy are just as biased as each other eh? Oh I have to say the United fans you know are very much like you.

Have you noticed this season how the big 4 seem to have 65%+ of the play for some of these games? I think Liverpool had 70% against Blackburn. When we played Spurs the other week they sat back with 10 men behind the ball, and that was at their ground. What are they doing? Is it a case of "Not only will we sit back but we wont even bother to leave our area. It never used to be this bad. Only Liverpool are breaking them down at the moment but even they were struggling a few weeks back. Football wise it has to be the most boring season in years.