stressederic

Josemi.

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I think thats used as a warning sign around Spanish PA Offices now. Allegedly.

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Beg away

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Riise is our best left back.

I'm not directly comparing the achievements of the two managers, because its obvious Houllier blows Moyes out of the water. I'm comparing the experiences and expectations of the fans. Thats what it's relatice to. For us in the treble season, a success would, realistically, have been 4th place. We'd missed out the season beforehand. The year before that we'd not been in Europe at all. We hit 4th, but on the way we clocked up these 3 fantastic trophies as well. Last season for Everton success would have been surviving. The year before they'd escaped relegation by a point. Well the survived, but achieved beyond their wildest dreams. Thats what I'm talking about. It's the belief in the manager that is so similar. When Houllier started to falter, many of us thought it was just a blip and as he'd shown before, he'd fix it. Others thought his time was over. You must have seen the arguments on these boards, and between Liverpool fans out and about. The fan base was totally divided. Thats whats happening to Everton at the moment. Thats what I'm talking about.

That would be my bet.

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I'm not, and have never slated or said a bad word against Houllier. I'm talking about the similarities between the situations. Look at Everton forums or talk to Everton fans, and they're split right down the middle as a group. Half think Moyes should go, the other half think he can turn it around. Half think he's taken the team as far as he can go, others think as he's done the job beforehand, he can find that form again. It's the Liverpool fans opinions on Houllier in a microcosm. Of course Houllier brought us far more trophies then Moyes could ever dream of doing for Everton, but it's all relative. After so long in the wilderness (I'm 22, I grew up during the Souness years) to win the Treble, was fantastic. For Everton after so long fighting relegation, to finish 4th and get into Europe was an immense achievement. Ok you can put our achievements in a cabinet and take pictures of them, but you see what I mean.

He can do but he's not very good. Oh do you mean Kronkamp?

Those faces in the background make it all worthwhile.

It was originally going to be a free transfer but Josemi pushed his way to the front of the negotiations

He's right though

There are only 63 points left on offer for us. The most we can finish with is 100

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On the replay of Cisse's goal you can see Gerrard wheel away to the right (with CIsse heading to the left to celebrate) past the Everton fans behind the goal, before turning around and sprinting over to the other celebrating players.

How long can you leave the car there? The ASDA down in Brighton that I used to work at, only let people have a car in the car park for 2 hours before a £25 ticket was left gleefully on the windscreen.

Ah ok thanks, that might be an idea as well.

Obviously showing a total lack of competence by missing that important press conference. Sack Parry!

Driving up from Brighton mate, and no huge rush to get home, but we'll likely leave straight from the match, so I can get home and half a few beers before midnight.

And the second best place? Posts merged: Ah excellent, thanks mate.