You are missing the point, Warnock was brave as f*** but not quite good enough, Riise is a good player, but not the bravest, Finnan is a very good player and brave without looking tough, Carra, Gerrard, Xabi are just class and hard. Its getting out of hand now, lets just move on. He isnt my favourite but he still does a job. I have had about 15 bottles in ours tonight, give me a break. And I presume you meant the only s*** you have seen me write?