Dan

Is it any real surprise though? The last few home games we've flattered to deceive until we've made a breakthrough. City and Bordeaux. Our sh*te form away from home has crept into our home games. As someone has already said we've not put in a totally commanding display all season. Its a scrap for 4th from now until the end of the season. Does anybody still believe we can win the title

Once again people getting carried away with a scrappy win at home against a team with the worst away record in the league. Its clear that this is another season of transition - there's no way we're good enough to win the league. People are saying we need to get points of the other big teams at Anfield, but what on earth suggests we will? Our record against them is dreadful and shows no signs of improving this year even if we are at Anfield. Our away form is woeful and thats against anyone in the league not just the top teams. Talk of the title is embarrassing, we're not even in the top 4 yet and are 14 points adrift of the top 2 who show absolutely no signs of weakness. I'm not saying we'll never win the league in the near future but lets concentrate on winning our first away game on Saturday before anything else (apart from Pompey!)

F*ckin hell my stream is about 4 mins behind! Get in!

City growing in confidence and looking the more likely to score. This is sh*te.

Injuries don't sound that bad Rafael Benitez admitted his joy at seeing Liverpool beat PSV Eindhoven and top Group C was tempered by the injury problems that saw Xabi Alonso, Mark Gonzalez and Jermaine Pennant all forced to leave the field. Out of the three players Gonzalez is the most serious with a torn hamstring. "We are really pleased with the victory and it is good for the supporters and the club but unfortunately we have some injuries with Mark Gonzalez the more serious," commented Benitez. "Gonzalez will be out for at least two weeks with his hamstring which is a blow for us. Xabi has a dead leg and Pennant has spasms in his hamstring so we will have to see how he is. "When you lose two players in the first half it makes it more difficult and we had Bolo Zenden and Luis Garcia who wasn't 100 per cent fit. "Gerrard played well and it was good for us to see him running forward and scoring goals."

Xabi is on crutches for a bad ankle injury. Rafa reckons he's out for a while

Would have been a bit odd if he did. Point is its quite a damning statement to make and something you don't often here despite the run we are in. Suggests lack of belief rather than just frustration.

Erm i doubt it. I'm sure his contract will have covered stress related illnesses and the like. Maybe he could get a doctors note?

Xabi Alonso believes the doom and gloom engulfing Liverpool has already all but scuppered their hopes of competing for the Premiership title. Another below par performance from The Reds in a goalless draw at Middlesbrough on Saturday evening means the team trail leaders Manchester United by 16 points after just 13 matches. A run of just two points from 21 available away from home has left their title hopes hanging by a thread. Alonso admits he would be able to see a light at the end of the tunnel, were it not for the negativity pervading the Anfield dressing room. "The fight for the title is getting more and more difficult for us," said Alonso. "Not just because of the points difference but because of the atmosphere I see at the club. "I see pessimism and in that respect it is going to be very hard to come back. "We can't put three straight wins together and are unable to transmit the spirit of Europe to league games. "I don't know if it is something psychological but we are very annoyed" Doesn't sound good

I'm sorry but it is a perfectly valid excuse to be playing sh*te, of course it is. Have you never had anything worrying on your mind at work that affects your concentration levels? He's only human. However, it doesn't excuse his attitude as captain which has been poor imo lately. Ill discipline and berating team-mates who are clearly low on confidence early in games is not the way to go about it when he's as guilty as them for stray passess etc. IF there are problems at home the only answer is to give him some time off because at the moment he looks like he's carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders (again) and that is to the detriment of the team.

That was a f*ckin joke i'm afraid. Are people taking the p*ss when they say Boro are a decent team? They were absolutely terrible today and most teams in the premiership would have won at a canter. We weren't unlucky we were toothless. The majority of our players need a f*ckin slap after that performance. There's no excuse for the poor quality of passing, crossing and decision making tonight. Only Carra, Alonso, Reina and Finnan come out of that with any credibility. Apart from the obvious problems with Gonzalez and Pennant we've got no urgency, no-one is prepared to take responsibility and set a standard for the rest of the team to follow. Gerrard is clearly a troubled man at the moment but he's got to grow some b*llocks and start behaving like a captain even if he can't play like one. It was barely 5 minutes into the game before he was moaning at Bellamy for an innocuous incident. He needs to get his own house in order before berating his teammates. Rafa is getting let down badly by his players. Brian Marwood is a c***sucker as well. Aparently Boro deserved their luck for being the most unadventurous team we've played away from home in years.

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I reckon. They weren't posting these views then though were they.

Jesus. After the Spurs game there was a long thread about how Riise was the best LB in the Premiership, with most people settling on him being in the top 3 in the league now he's our weak link. Make you're f*ckin minds up.

Some good points written here. I think the biggest problem is the fact that the team as a whole is struggling. When questions are asked why, people compare us to last season and the spotlight then falls on new signings. If players like Gerrard, Carra and Alonso are struggling with confidence then thats gonna rub off on everyone else especially new players who have an emotional attachment with the club. If i remember correctly both Bellamy and Pennant had a decent pre season/start to the season but have lost confidence, along with everyone else, as the season has gone on. There will come a time sooner or later when it will begin to click for them and the team i'm sure. Kuyt is an exception to the rule by the way. He's f*ckin ace.

Jesus f*cking Christ

I was pretty sure we wouldn't win it but thought we'd challenge for most of the season. People were getting carried away after the Community Shield. It's nearly as bad as everyone writing the Mancs off. Why the f*ck do people do this year after year?! Some people are still doing it now ffs.

Which other CM's are not giving their all for the club at the moment? Oh.....

Thank f*ck Houllier let him go then.

Someone made a banner for Richard Keys and Andy Gray: I'll start with 2 creative ones: "F*ck off Keys you hairy c*nt" and "F*ck of Gray you fat, biased, bald bluenose c*nt"

Summed up perfectly...............I'd probably add a mention for Rafa. He got it wrong with Bolo and Gerrard today imho.

Dear God

did we win the league 12 months ago? Hyypia is another year older and it shows and this isn't a knee jerk from today's game. You're guaranteed at least one howler from Sami every game now and thats not to mention his distribution. Agger must start from now on.

what is he then?

Heads went after the first mate. We've lost any self belief to come back from a goal down which Rafa instilled in the team when he arrived.