Swan Red

just go for the fighting?

what do you suggest be done about it?

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The difference with the previous cup finals is that it was possible to police the various routes in though obviously if groups of like minded individuals had wanted it it would happen. This time however the sheer numbers travelling all over europe to get to Athens is going to cause issues. i can't see that UEFA would want this final at all

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I once had an old game called ganja farmer where you had to shoot dea that were trying to burn your crops that was very much like that 51

pwned

sounds about right

I have no idea what you are on about here

How about French or should we allow spiks and wops also stop now please

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at least they were genuine

Ok I will take this in sections, regarding your opening point here I disagree I see defending and scoring goals as equally important. It is obviously better to win 1:0 than to lose 2:1 the difference here is not in the amount of goals that you have scored but in the amount of goals you have prevented the opposition from scoring. That point makes no sense at all. Being tactically astute and neutralising the opposition is paramount in football. There is a balance to be struck between scoring and preventing the other team from scoring they are two sides of the same coin. You will not win the league if you draw too many games so the emphasis for the top clubs is on winning already. A draw is already considered two points dropped for the top teams while they are the ones that have the responsibility to break down the teams below them. Why do you think that Watford coming to Anfield and getting a 0:0 draw is only worthy of the same amount of points had they lost the game 3:0. Sorry but I see no value in this. Regarding the point about how internet fora would have dealt with the 3 points for a win or the back pass rule then the reaction would probably have been dismissive I can see however that a case could be made for both then and now. The idea that a 0:0 draw is as worth as a 3:0 loss makes no sense now.

probably an appropriate edit fyds

I don't usually respond to your posts but Graham quoting you earlier brought your position to my attention. The part of your post I have highlighted is the bit I don't understand. 1:1 would be worth more than 0:0 and why is that is defending not as important as scoring. Why is it that the bottom teams don't have more 0:0 draws. Why do we need to change the starting premise the advent of 3 points for a win means that there is already greater emphasis on winning games but why should losing a game 3:0 be worth the same to a team as a 0:0 draw? It's nonsense

lol c***

I know kev but the poster that I was replying to completely went off on a tangent hopefully we will have an oot/foreigner stand that us good scousers can piss over

I honestly dont get the relevance of any of this

John why do you think that 1:1 should be worth more than 0:0 and why do you think that losing 3:0 should provide the same points as drawing 0:0 surely the game is not just about scoring goals but is equally about preventing the other team from doing so also. Why not abolish points altogether and have the team with the most goals scored winning the title

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