FC Showster

My view has been (across multiple threads) that the line is personal abuse, esp. considering the nature of the season. When you questioned me on where the line was I assumed you disagreed, you told me I had assumed wrongly, but now you're saying you are disagreeing with me so I am a bit confused Perhaps it's just crossed wires and I'll leave it there

Stopped to ask you? I'd already clearly laid out where I felt the line was. You knew this. If you felt the line was broadly in the same place why were you questioning me on it again? Based on that it's a reasonable conclusion to come to but hey, you got your one liner in which I think was your entire intent, so congrats

I've said already where I think the line should be drawn. Clearly you disagree and think everything/anything goes. Good luck to you and those who interact with you but it's not what I believe

From an earlier post which you replied to but clearly didn't read "That isn't a blanket excuse for the season we've seen. But at the very least it should be a shield, to a title winning manager, from the kinds of personal abusive off-field criticisms that we see daily on here."

I did say it's not a blanket excuse and that he still should go. Chiesa just standing there - oh my god

My Hillsborough reference was about the impact of the disaster to the players, the staff, the club, the manager, the fans as people. f*** the fact we didn't win the title that year. It's about understanding what actual people are going through in real life. Who was it said that football is the most important of the unimportant things? Fans not getting home from the match is not an unimportant thing. Nor is the death of a team-mate. Nor is the impact of those things on those around them. People here talk about needing a manager who gets the wider aspect of the club/city and then this season focus narrowly on results - I don't get the disconnect

Thank you, I didn't mean that Maybe then you should have first asked rather than jumping to a horrible conclusion

This reminds me far too much of Alan Partridge's three point plan. Think. Act. That's it.

I think it's incredibly distasteful to not mention it and to pretend that there were not extreme circumstances at the club this year. The match going fans, to their credit, mention it every single game but let's pretend this is just like any other year? This club above all should have an awareness of these kinds of impacts. That isn't a blanket excuse for the season we've seen. But at the very least it should be a shield, to a title winning manager, from the kinds of personal abusive off-field criticisms that we see daily on here. I wonder if things would be different next season with him in charge and more signings to balance out the squad (perhaps some better luck with injuries) but I think that ship has sailed and he has to go after the final game.

You honestly think they took 3 days off and then went back at it 100% full throttle? Laughable stuff. Salah in tears at FT against Bournemouth - he was clearly well over Jota's death. For me, that will remain the abiding memory of the season - CL or no CL/Slot staying or going. It had a big impact across pre-season and you basically don't get that back - lots of industry types have said this. Never mind the psychological effects. But yeah, 3 days off and they were all ok again

I think Diogo's death had a massive impact on pre-season and fitness levels across the season which then feeds into robustness and conditioning. Has any club/organisation across different sports gone through this type of trauma and had a successful season in the immediate aftermath?

I'm saying that the players have played badly the blame has gone elsewhere, they've kept playing badly and the blame has continued to go elsewhere. The manager is surely gone at the latest the end of the season - it'd hardly be the first time players stopped putting in the same shift in this scenario. Isn't the "lost the dressing room" basically a tacit admission they're not putting in the same effort? It's pretty much a synonym for it I'm not saying Slot is blameless, he deserves to go, but there's a few there out on that pitch that should be getting more scrutiny for their performances and not just having their s***e waved away

Isn't this just another example of what I'm saying?

Not the only reason but I think it's easier to give up when the blame is going to land elsewhere

Why would the players bother to run when the fans will bail them out by blaming it all on Slot?