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I'm saying that the players have played badly the blame has gone elsewhere, they've kept playing badly and the blame has continued to go elsewhere. The manager is surely gone at the latest the end of the season - it'd hardly be the first time players stopped putting in the same shift in this scenario. Isn't the "lost the dressing room" basically a tacit admission they're not putting in the same effort? It's pretty much a synonym for it I'm not saying Slot is blameless, he deserves to go, but there's a few there out on that pitch that should be getting more scrutiny for their performances and not just having their s***e waved away

Isn't this just another example of what I'm saying?

Not the only reason but I think it's easier to give up when the blame is going to land elsewhere

Why would the players bother to run when the fans will bail them out by blaming it all on Slot?

Last season we had a consistent midfield 3 generally playing well and undisturbed by injuries in other positions. But I think more importantly Salah playing well up front with senior options to rotate in the other two spots compares much more favourably than to Gakpo-Ekitike-Salah. Often last season we praised Slot for changing things at HT and going on to win the match. He hasn't had the bench this season to do that Wirtz struggling to settle and perhaps not really being right for that 3rd midfield role in the PL hasn't helped either

The others are far from blameless but I'm not doing a player by player review

He wasn't a bad player when he came into the team but he also hasn't improved in the way that he should - and that is on 1 person. Curtis Jones. People talk about how teams are setup as though this is the NFL with every play predetermined and called by the coach or captain. It's a much broader structure which relies just as much on the players making the right decisions as anything. Players making the wrong ones (Jones backpass, Salah overly delayed pass), being unlucky (Gakpo clearing the ball), or just refereeing calls. XG today was 0.5 - 2.25 in our favour. Sounds like overall the structure wasn't too back in that we've created enough chances but haven't converted and then an unlucky deflection hurts us. You don't always get what you deserve in football and it's amazing how often the football gods put the boot in when you're having a bad season. As someone else said, Slot's style is control and punishing mistakes which worked well last season when we limited mistakes and punished other teams. This year we have too many individual errors, poor chance conversion rates, and too many injuries to properly rotate in key areas

Szoboszlai getting hacked down for the break that ultimately led to their winner really pissed me off. Right in front of the ref, couldn't ask for an easier decision to make, and he doesn't give it. Jones then wins the ball back and shows why he isn't starting. He has barely improved at all over the last few years. Just dumps responsibility onto other players na d passes to the keeper who is under more pressure than he was

No wonder so many on here seem to keep referencing that Slot is bald. They're thinking about jumping backwards onto his head

It was a poor performance but it improved second half, didn't feel like they were going to nick it late on and we were more likely (as it proved) to score. The mentality was fine imo You compared it to Klopp's tenure which was why I made the comparison. RAM issues or have you drank too much and that's why your short term memory is shot? Ridiculous tendency on here to think people are perfectly happy with performances and how the season is going if they arent going along with the criticism of every single thing (too much of it overly personal towards the manager)

So a 1-0 away win was worse than a 7-2 away defeat? Can we get this AI slop removed from the board or can someone switch it off and on again?

They'd also be saying to the players "work it out for yourselves", "we paid all this money for you and you're asking me how to play football?" etc

It's become a more physical league this season and I think that's partly on how the refs are approaching games but it feels more chaotic than normal - City drawing tonight at Sunderland as well. Currently at halfway stage and everyone but Arsenal have lost at least 4 games but in the CL English teams are 1st, 4th, 9th, 11th, 12th, 13th which is pretty good

That summer we had 4 senior CBs. 2 were injury prone, 1 was VVD, and 1 was sold and not replaced. The context for Klopp's injury crisis was that VVD got injured and then the other two, having to play a lot of games, also unsurprisingly got injured. Weirdly for a guy who was a CB as a player, it seems to have been the spot where he consistently refused to have enough cover (for my liking) For this season, there is context but clearly none that you'd accept so I'm not going to bother going through it. But keep bringing up Hodgson as a comparison because it's always good to have a reminder just how fickle and quick to turn nasty some fans are

I think if we get top 4 then he gets another season

You really wanted Ramsay thrown on at that point?

So now you want to add context and explainers rather than leaving it at a pithy one liner? You're saying my Klopp argument is disingenuous? FFS It's YOUR argument just turned around against you to illustrate how bad it is

Sorry, those points were in addition to what you'd already said. They were forced into making more chances than ideal and then also had those problems

Hodgson never lost 6 in 8. Jurgen can't say that

Isak dragged on all summer so he came in undercooked, right backs have had injury problems and Leoni does his knee in his first game while looking good. The squad is not well balanced and centre back has been neglected for too long (case in point is Joe Gomez is still with us - like the guy, good player when fit, but physically he can't be relied upon and we've known this since well before Slot joined)

When I saw Bradley and Frimpong both starting I knew that, with their recent injury record, it was likely neither would last the 90 (Bradley's case it was as much the chance of a booking ) so there would be a few changes at right back

Not helped by constant injuries to the two right backs necessitating square pegs in round holes Gakpo missing big chances in quite a few games and becoming quite one dimensional MacAllister's drop off meaning midfield isn't as solid as last season

Ah of course, if you're not insulting Slot by saying he's completely clueless or comparing him to Roy f***ing Hodgson then you must be happy with how the season is going What great logic that is

The pressure has certainly scrambled the brains of a few in this thread

Because someone above claimed he had said it and I wondered - like others might wonder. Why are you on here? Why are you bothering posting? Why do you seemingly respond to post without reading what's written? (All rhetorical, no need to answer)