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Yes but thats never going to happen he has too much self belief, he wont be sacked either unfortunately.

Yep, at least Insua could get forward and put in a good cross...PFK cant defend or attack...I just dont see the point of him tbh. As for Roy the less said about him the better, mediocre at best and simply not good enough for us. Its so sad that he has become part of the problem, it used to be H&G and now its Roy too.

Though I dont think Carra is as bad as he is being made to look atm, we just dont press teams enough and therefore we are under alot more pressure. Add to that the current standard of our fullbacks, PFK is pretty useless and GJ is having a nightmare.

Now? Get rid now before its too late

I dont think so tbh chap, what would be more believable (and still far away from the realms of possibility) is that Roy was brought in to effectively make us less attractive and therefore even harder for Hicks and Co to get re-financed etc. But even that would be highly unlikely, after all when we are not winning revenues go down and then we would face a very real risk of administration

I guess youre too young too remember that time i almost won something

Even then it will be the Rafa's fault, after all people are still blaming him now

Roy: Think of it like a press up....we go down and come up stronger

being punished for raising our expectations

its all his fault, if he wasnt there then people wouldnt even expect us to score or win many games, fits quite nicely into Roy's expectations and therefore results in less pressure.

Thats a quality comment, made me laugh Should say the bit in bold and not the situation in general, thats just rubbish atm

lol, is it it Torres's fault now? Cant come out and slate him can he...though not defending him was equally as bad. So we are 16th in the league, struggling to score or create chances... Can i make a suggestion, that Roy "out of his f***ing depth" Hodgson leaves now and saves us from another weekend of misery. If Torres is not playing, that probably means Kuyt upfront with Maxi on the wing...

Yes i agree, to me he looks like someone that is arrogant, he has total belief in a system he has been developing for over 30 odd years and doesnt think he needs to change it. If it doesnt work then its the players fault, he told them what to do...they didnt do it...lets drop them. Did you catch his comment re the team that played Northampton being a "b" team...what a great way to inspire your squad, pathetic.

Yep, so defensive - tbh it wont help him, if he cant deal with the press now then it can only get worse imo.

Not really tbh, for me it was another example of just how far out of his depth he is, he couldnt answer the question about his approach, kept deflecting and saying he didnt know what they meant. He then went on to say that everyone at the club hopes that the ownership situation will be resolved....but he doesnt want to hide behind that....but thats exactly what he did by bringing it up.

Is it wrong to log on everyday and hope that there is actually going to be some truth or substantiated rerport to back up title of this thread....sadly enough thats how i feel atm.

He is doing a great job of talking himself out of a job, I dont think we will see many people singing his name or marching in his support if there were rumours abound that he was going to be sacked, actually I expect it would be quite the opposite.

WHAT?!!! Jaysus, can someone please stop him talking to the press...its got to a point where i am just laughing now, I want him out

Nope, if anything its getting worse by the day, each game and everytime he talks to the press

Yes he blamed himself for picking them iirc, ie I picked them so they should have been good enough to win....he then went on to say that they didnt perform as he hoped and they needed to prove themselves to him.

TB in the times (taken off TLW, dont have the link to the original story) TB in The Times What Roy Hodgson must do next to stave off crisis at Anfield Adopt a more adventurous tactical approach No shots on target throughout Wednesday’s abject second-half performance against Northampton Town, a team ranked 69 League places below them, is as damning a statistic as is possible for a club of Liverpool’s grandeur and expectations. It was not a one-off, either, as in both their previous Barclays Premier League matches, against Manchester United and Birmingham City, Liverpool failed to create any chances of real note from open play. An obvious lack of strength in depth in attack is part of the problem, but Hodgson’s strategy of sitting deep and not pressing play is also contributing to their impotence. With just four goals scored from their opening five league games — only Wigan Athletic and West Ham United have scored fewer, while Blackpool have struck twice as many — the need for greater urgency going forward is obvious. Make more positive public pronouncements Before Liverpool played Manchester City, Hodgson said that he hoped to avoid a 6-0 defeat. It was a tongue-in-cheek, throwaway line after a number of Premier League matches had ended in that scoreline the previous weekend, but it also fitted in with a pattern in which he dampens expectations before and after games. “My expectations were not that high anyway,” Hodgson said after a goalless draw away to Birmingham. Avoiding a heavy defeat was his aim before a pre-season friendly against Al Hilal, which was postponed because of heavy rain, while Northampton were billed as “formidable” opponents before the Carling Cup third-round tie. Were Liverpool on a supreme run of form, such pronouncements would not be a problem, but when sixteenth in the Premier League they smack of negativity, particularly at a club whose managers traditionally have an unshakeable belief in their players, in public at least. Solve the longstanding left-back problem Different players, same old problem. When Courtney Herbert danced around Danny Wilson to set up Northampton’s second goal it evoked recent painful memories of Paul Konchesky being given a torrid time by Nani and Daniel Agger being taken to the cleaners by Adam Johnson. The likelihood is that neither Agger nor Wilson is best suited to playing left back, while Konchesky is only in the early stages of his Liverpool career and deserves the chance to find his feet. The latter needs a consistent run in the side, although the physical frailty of Fábio Aurélio, who was re-signed in the summer despite the longstanding injury concerns that prompted his initial release, makes it difficult for Hodgson to risk Konchesky in anything other than league games. But at least he now knows that his central defenders do not make ideal auxiliary left backs. Stop showing faith in players who are not good enough When Liverpool failed to bring in a centre forward in the most recent transfer window, Hodgson insisted it was not a serious problem because he could still call on Ryan Babel, who, according to the Liverpool manager, had “never been given a proper chance” to prove himself in that position. Babel’s performance against Northampton proved why because he made no impact whatsoever against npower League Two opponents before being substituted to a chorus of boos. “I failed personally,” Babel said on Twitter yesterday. It was a similar story in the Europa League play-off against Trabzonspor at Anfield, only for the cracks to be papered over when the Holland forward scored. Perseverance is no longer an option. Give Fernando Torres the support he requires On and off the pitch, the growing feeling is that Torres is lacking in the support he needs to reaffirm his reputation as one of the world’s most feared strikers. Hodgson had the chance to offer him verbal backing at the weekend when Sir Alex Ferguson accused the forward of cheating, only for the Liverpool manager to fail to offer a defence of his player. It is a similar story on the pitch, where Torres cuts an increasingly isolated figure, deprived of the kind of backup that comes with a more adventurous attacking approach and which would allow him to play on the shoulder of the last defender, the position in which he thrives the most, more regularly. Torres has scored only once in six appearances for the club this season. Great article imo, and relevant to both threads

What a joke, blame the players....pathetic excuse for a manager we have atm

Yes, thats what i was saying

TB in the times (taken off TLW, dont have the link to the original story) TB in The Times What Roy Hodgson must do next to stave off crisis at Anfield Adopt a more adventurous tactical approach No shots on target throughout Wednesday’s abject second-half performance against Northampton Town, a team ranked 69 League places below them, is as damning a statistic as is possible for a club of Liverpool’s grandeur and expectations. It was not a one-off, either, as in both their previous Barclays Premier League matches, against Manchester United and Birmingham City, Liverpool failed to create any chances of real note from open play. An obvious lack of strength in depth in attack is part of the problem, but Hodgson’s strategy of sitting deep and not pressing play is also contributing to their impotence. With just four goals scored from their opening five league games — only Wigan Athletic and West Ham United have scored fewer, while Blackpool have struck twice as many — the need for greater urgency going forward is obvious. Make more positive public pronouncements Before Liverpool played Manchester City, Hodgson said that he hoped to avoid a 6-0 defeat. It was a tongue-in-cheek, throwaway line after a number of Premier League matches had ended in that scoreline the previous weekend, but it also fitted in with a pattern in which he dampens expectations before and after games. “My expectations were not that high anyway,” Hodgson said after a goalless draw away to Birmingham. Avoiding a heavy defeat was his aim before a pre-season friendly against Al Hilal, which was postponed because of heavy rain, while Northampton were billed as “formidable” opponents before the Carling Cup third-round tie. Were Liverpool on a supreme run of form, such pronouncements would not be a problem, but when sixteenth in the Premier League they smack of negativity, particularly at a club whose managers traditionally have an unshakeable belief in their players, in public at least. Solve the longstanding left-back problem Different players, same old problem. When Courtney Herbert danced around Danny Wilson to set up Northampton’s second goal it evoked recent painful memories of Paul Konchesky being given a torrid time by Nani and Daniel Agger being taken to the cleaners by Adam Johnson. The likelihood is that neither Agger nor Wilson is best suited to playing left back, while Konchesky is only in the early stages of his Liverpool career and deserves the chance to find his feet. The latter needs a consistent run in the side, although the physical frailty of Fábio Aurélio, who was re-signed in the summer despite the longstanding injury concerns that prompted his initial release, makes it difficult for Hodgson to risk Konchesky in anything other than league games. But at least he now knows that his central defenders do not make ideal auxiliary left backs. Stop showing faith in players who are not good enough When Liverpool failed to bring in a centre forward in the most recent transfer window, Hodgson insisted it was not a serious problem because he could still call on Ryan Babel, who, according to the Liverpool manager, had “never been given a proper chance” to prove himself in that position. Babel’s performance against Northampton proved why because he made no impact whatsoever against npower League Two opponents before being substituted to a chorus of boos. “I failed personally,” Babel said on Twitter yesterday. It was a similar story in the Europa League play-off against Trabzonspor at Anfield, only for the cracks to be papered over when the Holland forward scored. Perseverance is no longer an option. Give Fernando Torres the support he requires On and off the pitch, the growing feeling is that Torres is lacking in the support he needs to reaffirm his reputation as one of the world’s most feared strikers. Hodgson had the chance to offer him verbal backing at the weekend when Sir Alex Ferguson accused the forward of cheating, only for the Liverpool manager to fail to offer a defence of his player. It is a similar story on the pitch, where Torres cuts an increasingly isolated figure, deprived of the kind of backup that comes with a more adventurous attacking approach and which would allow him to play on the shoulder of the last defender, the position in which he thrives the most, more regularly. Torres has scored only once in six appearances for the club this season. Spot on imo, TB saying it how it is shocker, also re the LB problem...why did we sign Aurelio if he is not actually going to play? He is a much better option than PFK, is he injured?

Very true, its quite ironic really...the results and performances have been so bad that people are getting annoyed, disenchanted and in most cases directing it at the owners. I actually think its a bit of both, some are directing there anger at the clubs owners and others have all but given up on Roy already and are not coming to games. Its just being perceived as being a boycott etc...