We can condense this into 2 points a) Gerrard believes he is the man and that has a detrimental effect on the team as a whole and we perform worse with him. b) Gerrard hasn't won the league with another club so we are better off without him. If you are happy for these two points to represent your views on the man, then I'm happy to keep out of it from now on and let others comment. You up for that?