Bromage

let's move on from the old to the new and start the debate................................

The board f***ed up by sacking Rafa. The rest would have been an irrelevance.

I think he'd even have forgotten to put the goose in the oven.............

IMHO, sadly agreeing to part was the right thing but getting rid patently wasn't.

Whatever happens next weekend, it needs to be properly coordinated and intended to disrupt to the maximum. However admirable the efforts after the game today the fact is that it caused no disruption and whilst it got some disparaging coverage by Sky and others, there was no financial impact or embarrassment to the owners.

It appears that little thought went into the appointment of Roy, even less into the departure of Rafa. The probably belief by Purslow that "Rafa had to go" and should be replaced by a "safe pair of hands", at Roy's age by definition short term. We all like him, what's not to like; he's like everyone's favourite uncle with a few interesting stories to tell but you'd never rely on him to be around in a crisis. Anyone who believed that the players were looking for stability was sadly mistaken; players by definition live "on the edge" and in fact those looking for stability are likely to be those seeing the writing on the wall, in terms of their career at the club. A plucky run in the league and the UEFA don't constitute a route to stardom for a 63 year old; they may flag up a promising young manager but that's not where we are. It seems incredible to even consider that LFC would take such a short term view regarding his appointment but now the likely prospect of top 4 must seem in jeopardy, it's likely to affect sale prospects, player contract renewals and even ticket sales. If you look at our squad, it needs a manager who is highly regarded for his all-round tactical skills and not just the ability to defend tightly and grab a goal on the break. Dan Agger highlighted this in his article and whilst nobody likes to see a player bad-mouthing the manager's tactics, maybe he's just saying what the others are thinking.?

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It does us no credit at this point, whatever our frustrations, to pour scorn on the efforts of SOS or any other supporters group. We all share a common goal and each group whilst pursuing its chosen action should acknowledge and respect the actions of others. Conflicting personalities appear on so many occasions to prevent the presentation of a united force, in what can only be an apparent belief that their group is the only credible option. What we surely have to ask ourselves is how we can bring all parties together, if not to combine forces (which would surely be logical and the most effective), then at least there surely must be scope for a spirit of cooperation? A means by which each group could communicate and share information would surely maximise the effectiveness of our protest?

There's a Sports Bar on Marylebone Station, which is a good start.

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I like others, Davvo, choose to pick up the comment about the owners and not the subjective comments about Hodgson & Gerrard. As someone said, it's interesting to see for what must the first time, a journalist actually suggesting in print what many others are thinking.

Is it just Fanning who has an agenda, I wonder?

"It is time for Liverpool supporters to start boycotting matches, to take direct action against the owners and the board that sustains them still." ?

In the context of taking action, which generally tends to be determined by the chief police officer at the time, a human rights or civil liberties lawyer would be a worthwhile confidant, just to lay down the ground rules and ensure legality. Do we have any such specialists on call? ;-)

The added concern at this stage is that were the money to become available, would we necesarily attract a suitable replacement and if so, would the club be willing to spend the money.....

Isn't there a question here though whether fans are really that concerned about the debt as opposed to the available funds for investment? If paying them £500m meant there was no funds for investment then what would have been achieved, other than letting G&H off the hook and replacing them with new owners in the same position? IMHO the selling price is critical and is probably the reason why buyers would be frightened off, in the knowledge that they are having to pay £500m to secure an investment worth £300m and requiring investment in a new ground and several new players, with no payback this year and possibly none next year either. It's not a bargain, is it...........

If there is a big penalty in the background for failing to sell by the end of the month, I can't personally see any reason why G&H would hold on.

But isn't it reasonable to ask why the club chose to disrupt the playing staff before the club was sold?

What you have to remember is that Purslow was brought in to sell the club and failed, so this season he's now in charge of selecting the manager & player negotiations. If you want the man who is apparently selling the club, that's Broughton but of course he's only working one day a week.

Well if you're making comparisons then I can't argue. But I guess lack of match experience............ I'm certainly not defending it though!

I think to be fair there wasn't much choice was there? Poulsen isn't really ready so who else is there now?

You've got to wonder why we're playing Torres & Ngog together. Surely it would be better to put Gerard further forward and replace Ngog for Poulsen or Maxi?

Who is the woman sat next to Kenny?

I am also reading, "Like I said, I'm not an ITK from within the club and I have honestly no idea what is being discussed. I just know ......" Unless it's substantiated then it's just like you saying, "I have a gut feeling.....". I don't want to "burst anyones bubble" but there probably is somebody else involved in discussions, given the end of Auguest penalties but without some substance, it's no more credible than any other ITK input is it?