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I think Insua is a fine footballer but I've now officially given up on him this season to stop any attacking down our left hand side.

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I don't think Insua is anything special but we should stick with him now, at least as cover. No point tossing these lads aside so soon after giving them a chance. The experience will be good for him and he can only get better.

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I don't think Insua is anything special but we should stick with him now, at least as cover. No point tossing these lads aside so soon after giving them a chance. The experience will be good for him and he can only get better.

 

agree. in an ideal world he'd have been used more like the brazilian kids at united. think he'll be a good player, possibly a very good one in the future. but he's not reliable enough defensively yet and it's costing us.

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agree. in an ideal world he'd have been used more like the brazilian kids at united. think he'll be a good player, possibly a very good one in the future. but he's not reliable enough defensively yet and it's costing us.

 

 

 

Don't agree at all. What's costing us is so damn little attacking ambition and hardly having more than one player in the box. No need to worry about either fullbacks vulnerability defending [the other one is no better than Insua] if we spend most of the game in the other teams half. Johnson is no better defensively than Insua, but what he is really good at is going forward.....but he never does it anymore!! Orders? He should really be given a run at RM with Kelly at RB. We need some flare and drive down the flanks and someone who can actually beat a player. Do you remember way back to his first few games....almost like a distant memory!! :(

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He's good going forward but weak defensively, similar in ways to GJ on the otherside. I reckon if you put 2 pacey wide men in that team and played a proper midfielder to support the forwards we'd be right in the chase for the league, as it is at the moment if we make 6th we'll be lucky. The club has no chance of success with the currenlt midfield setup. Far too negative.

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A first choice LB is a must in the summer (if we have money).

 

Aurelio is made of fibre glass and Insua is s***. Yes, he's been used more than he really should have this year and he looks wrecked, but he's not good enough.

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Is Insua any better than Warnock was when we got rid of him?

He's a decent deputy but its a shame he's had to become first choice, the pressure on him is unfair, but he doesn't shirk and thats to his credit. It suggests he'll get better as he matures.

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A left-back player-manager that could cover for Torres and has the business acumen & £££billions to oust G&H... we'll be sorted.

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He's 20.

 

Twenty.

 

And he is being written off because he hasn't come in and owned the left hand side. He'll be a far better player for the experiences of this season.

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either that or destroyed

 

he has been played far far too much

Very true. He's been struggling since November when clearly the large number of matches started catching up to him. Unfortunately, Dossena was apparently not even good enough to give him a break (the judgement of the coaching staff) when he was here and Aurelio is just being Aurelio - injured.

 

I hope he recovers mentally from this season.

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Insua is clearly coping mentally. He's not hiding and he's putting himself in there game after game. He's inexperienced and it shows, but I don't think anyone can criticise his mentality.

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He's 20.

 

Twenty.

 

And he is being written off because he hasn't come in and owned the left hand side. He'll be a far better player for the experiences of this season.

Rafa's being written off, not Insua. Insua needs time, he needs not to be shoved into the forefront every match we play even when he's obviously not up to the task.

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I've said it before, but we need to take Insua out of the firing line (for his sake and ours). Agger played as LB on one occasion this season and looked good there.

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Rafa's being written off, not Insua. Insua needs time, he needs not to be shoved into the forefront every match we play even when he's obviously not up to the task.

 

Yes, he does not need to be taken out of the team.

 

Quite the opposite view from last season where he put in a few impressive performances in the first team and there were calls for him to be first choice because 'if they're good enough they're old enough'.

 

He's 20, he has struggled, he's not shying away and this bodes well. He's a talented footballer who is learning his trade and he'll be far better in the coming years for having a full season behind him. He'll have learnt from this season, and we'll see the benefit.

 

And we currently have five 'first team' players who are fit for duty across the back four. Carra and Kyrgiakos in the middle has absolutely no pace whatsoever, so unless you want the pair of them to set up camp on the D-Line and refuse to move then it's not really a viable option. Agger at least allows us to push up a bit.

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Is there any danger of Insua making the World Cup squad? He could do without that.

 

I'd happily play Carragher at leftback for a game to give him a break. It'd be like '01 all over again.

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Insua is clearly coping mentally. He's not hiding and he's putting himself in there game after game. He's inexperienced and it shows, but I don't think anyone can criticise his mentality.

There's a clear difference in his confidence levels. Doesn't mean he's gone into hiding or cries after every match, but you can see it. It's in fact a testament to his mentality that he hasn't completely fallen apart, but it's still affecting him. It's like Lucas last season - he completely reverted into safe mode, and any chance he had of being a confident player at Liverpool probably went out the door as well.

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Yes, he does not need to be taken out of the team.

 

Quite the opposite view from last season where he put in a few impressive performances in the first team and there were calls for him to be first choice because 'if they're good enough they're old enough'.

 

He's 20, he has struggled, he's not shying away and this bodes well. He's a talented footballer who is learning his trade and he'll be far better in the coming years for having a full season behind him. He'll have learnt from this season, and we'll see the benefit.

 

And we currently have five 'first team' players who are fit for duty across the back four. Carra and Kyrgiakos in the middle has absolutely no pace whatsoever, so unless you want the pair of them to set up camp on the D-Line and refuse to move then it's not really a viable option. Agger at least allows us to push up a bit.

 

He's displaying the very same deficiencies he showed when he was plying his trade in the Reserves'; getting sucked in, falling asleep and letting players run beyond him, being poor in the air and standing off his man. He doesn't seem to have developed the defensive side of his game a great deal. I have very little doubt that his experiences this season will set him in good stead to be defensive cover in the future, but he is costing us goals right now and needs to be taken out of the team.

 

It's true that shifting Agger to LB will see a slower CB replacing him in the middle, but we hardly play a high line as it is, so it wouldn't make a huge difference.

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