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The pictures you've seen are exactly the same as I've seen from that description - it's pretty clear now that there are two sets of pictures in circulation and "our" set excludes the outer cladding of the stadium, basically it's been stripped bare hence the girder visibility, open decks and gaps into Stanley Park between the Kop and the side stands. We haven't seen the architectural fripperies that others have.

I think it's also clear that people have seen different pics - as I said the ones I've seen looked like early design concepts fixing the size and shape of the internal seating bowl. The external cladding I haven't described as it didn't really exist as such.

I've seen two pics - it's my personal description. I was asked not to post the pics. I won't. Maybe not everyone behaves as you would?

The "toilet bowl" looks absolutely nothing like the pics I have seen, or the pics I know after talking to a couple of people they have seen. I don't understand the references others have made to an alien spaceship etc either.

this is what I posted ... I was shown a picture a week or so back. On it the Kop was separate from the other three sides with a "bunker's paradise" gap out into Stanley Park which makes me think it was an earlier concept drawing and not the finished version. The Kop itself was huge and steep, and looked like a mix between the Sud Tribune at Dortmund and one of the side stands at Marseille - going back for ever and was semi circular at the top. The wings of the Kop wrapped around slightly. The two side stands looked like they might have a small paddock at the front (the bunker seats Hicks has mentioned?) then three tiers above that - a bit like largest side stand at the San Siro? The end opposite the Kop was two tier and reminded me of the smaller end at Porto's Dragao Stadium. The roof was supported on scaffolding towers reminiscent of either the vertical stems of construction cranes or lighting rigs at stadium gigs. In shape from above the roof appeared to be two halves of a beetle shell - flat and slightly broader at the Kop end than the narrower opposite end. It also appears to initially rise up from the Kop and then slope down to the other end, before floating above the "Anny Road" like the roof at Porto's stadium.

When Garcia, Kuyt, Voronin, Kewell and Gerrard are all out injured?

We've just signed Lucas, and Leto, and Voronin. And Benayoun isn't a left-sided midfielder.

I'd lost the will to live if we signed Benayoun. How many mediocre bits and pieces midfielders do you need in a squad? We're already overstocked centrally and on the right. We need a world class left-sided player and that's it for midfield. And we don't need any support strikers. If Rafa wants any more back up to the back up he should use some of the kids.

mooro - I'll send them to you if you send them to me

I haven't seen them and I'd publish them without a second thought if anybody wants to send them over Would echo what Kev has said, of those that have seen them everyone is reluctant to post them just in case ...

The Kop is the head of the sperm - it's a huge 50,000 seater. The Anny Road End is the narrow tip of the tail and only seats 5.

I've seen it described as a mix of the Eden Project, a giant sperm and Luton Town's Kenilworth Road.

I'd sell Sissoko. We don't need him if we have Alonso, Gerrard, Mascherano and Lucas. You don't buy the Brazilian player of the year for the reserve team.

Just a reminder to everyone about the survey - we're going to give it around another week so if you've got any suggestions or ideas email them to the addresses above. cheers Steve

The new Kop approaching from the Albert:

think you're being pedantic

the Holte End at Villa Park resembles the Colts stadium. As for our stadium, I get the feeling that G+H are biting off more than they can chew with regards to planning permission. We were specifically excluded from having a brick finish to the stadium when we applied previously.

Banned and on the run?

Rafa's a fan of Anelka if it adds to the debate.

from Tony Barrett's Echo blog: http://www.tonybarrett.merseyblogs.co.uk/2..._owen.html#more Tony Barrett: Road to Athens ECHO feature writer and Kop season ticket holder Tony Barrett.... Michael Owen Posted by Tony Barrett on May 29, 2007 3:10 PM | Permalink AFTER Athens, there is a feeding frenzy going on over all things Liverpool in the national media. If it's not Benitez at loggerheads with Parry, it's the Americans failing to provide the funding they'd promised. God only knows what is actually going on at Anfield but one thing's for sure - a football club going through a massive period of change is always going to be a troubled place, especially after losing a European Cup final. So at the moment, the vultures are hovering, all looking to feed off what they think is the rotting carcas of Liverpool FC. We should all take much of what is being written with an even bigger pinch of salt than usual while this is going on. Today, there was another attempt to divide people at Liverpool in an article which suggested Jamie Carragher and Steven Gerrard had both gone over Rafa Benitez's head to tell our new American owners to sign Michael Owen. Now, I know both Gerrard and Carragher are very friendly with Owen. And, in actual fact, Owen was one of the first people Carra rang after losing the Champions League final. Also, both Liverpool players still rate their former team-mate incredibly highly and I'd imagine both would love to see him back in a red shirt. But I have it on extremely good authority that neither went behind their manager's back, which can only mean someone is making mischief. It is unlikely to be the writer of the story because Henry Winter isn't that type of journalist. So I can only presume he felt compelled to write the story after speaking to a contact who he trusted. What their reasons for feeding him this mis-information for are unclear but their actions will only add to the feelings of instability and suspicion at Anfield. The only way the club can counteract this is by closing ranks and putting on a united front. Division is weakness and there is currently far too much division at Liverpool FC. For our own part, we need to make sure we don't get excited at every bit of speculation being written about the club because that will only make a difficult situation even worse.