Sorry to just take this one line out of your well argued and reasoned piece, Kop, mate, but I just thought I'd throw in a little observation about the GMP. My next door neighbour is a DI in a neighbouring police force and he is scathing of his Manchester counterparts. I was telling him of an incident I had to report to them once and he told me I'd wasted my time. He said, "The official recruitment policy in the GMP is, 'two arms, two legs, you're in'". He reckons they are far from the brightest tools in the box. Additionally, the chairman of my running club is now retired but was once the deputy chief constable of that force despite then having a conviction for drink driving! If he is anything to go by, then I can only say that hoping for better policing at OT is a forlorn hope indeed.