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They wouldn't be the only one with a tag line that rings true though. Would they? Still celebrating the second derby win in 14 attempts I see? Good for you. make hay while the sun shines I say. I didn't need to trot out match stats to know that 3-0 at Goodison was a freak scoreline and I do love the way your brothers in arms have rewritten history to pretend it wasn't. Still, 'if you know your history' eh? And if you don't gcare what we say, why do you sing about us all the time? Difference between reds and blues. I don't even read your match reports. You can't wait for ours. Small time. Though I did notice that for about the 3rd week running your prick of a fan representative in the Observer managed to shoe-in a reference to us in what is a meant to be a one paragraph summary of your own match. Don't you find it just the slightest bit embarrasing? I suppose another difference is that if any reds were as provocative on your sites as you are on here at times then we'd be banned, called murderers etc etc etc quicker than you could say 'Clive Thomas' - I'll settle for just exposing how ridiculous you are at times. Speak to me in May and we'll see who is laughing then. The one season in twenty you finished above us we still comprehensively outshone you.

True, but we seem to be suffering more than most at the moment in terms of how the bedding in process is affecting results. The 'luck' thing is true to an extent and will even out over the season you would think - but it doesn't change the fact that the games we've lost we're all actually there for the taking and luck didn't even need to be a factor. As for Wilson, we dealt with him last week. He is revelling in this at the moment, even though his match report is, as ever, totally contradictory. Benitez will ram hos words down his throat. For all that I am hurting at the moment, the likes of him just remind me of the need to close ranks at times like this and keep it all in perspective. That doesn't mean not expressing any concern at all, it just means remembering that we have the right man in charge to out it right.

What is worrying me the most is that teams aren't even having to play well to beat us. Everton, Bolton and Chelsea were all average at best against us and none of them could claim to have bossed the game - yet all three ran out relatively comfortable winners in the end (I know Chelsea was only 1-0 but they were hardly under massive or constant pressure at the end). We have had some dreadful bad luck - woodwork again yesterday for about the seventh match in succession, and yet another penalty shout denied - but there comes a point where that doesn't wash anymore. Too many good players are not playing well enough at the moment and I fear that it will be hard for them to regain top form when the side is constantly being changed. One player who is in form (Crouch) can barely get a game. I am worried, as I honestly thought that the defeat in the derby was going to have got our poor form out of our systems but it hasn't worked that way. We've got some tough matches coming up and people now need to stand up and be counted. I have got every faith in Rafa and still find it reassuring to remember that he will be hurting as much as us and working as hard as he can to put things right. He has shown before that he is capable of getting things to click and he'll do it again. My 'moans' above aren't criticisms of him particularly (though I would prefer a little less tinkering), just trying to call things as I see them at the moment. When you take a step back, you notice that no-one has yet run away from us points wise and there is a long way to go. Although the emotions are negative at the moment, rationally there are still positives to take.

About as funny as the Kop coming out with 'You're not singing anymore' at 2-0 up on Wednesday. I despair sometimes.

I know what you mean, but he made it very, very clear that he was only replying because he sends a token reply to all e-mails he receives but that as soon as he couldn't be arsed anymore he would stop - hence me telling me him not to bother replying. One horrible, arrogant t*** of a man.

Seem to have deleted his replies sorry mate though I still have the stuff I sent him. He sent a snotty reply to my first very polite e-mail, so I took the bait and replied (again very politely) and he was even snottier, basically telling me he couldn't be arsed discussing it with me. In my last e-mail I did quote some of his remarks so you can at least get a flavour: Dear Paul Please don't feel any obligation to reply. This will certainly be my last communication with you on this matter. "I was trying to explain why it is not my job to seek balance all the time. I have 800 words to cover a match, and if I was to mention even half of the stuff you suggest there would be no space left for goals, incidents etc." If I had an issue with your original match report, I'd have contacted you last week. I didn't. I had an issue with you column this week. "Applauding players who are being taken down the tunnel on a stretcher is normal in football, ie not news" I agree. I just felt that your article could easily leave someone with the impression that this didn't happen at Anfield, which is factually incorrect with regard to the majority of fans. "United andLiverpool fans taunting each other with sick, moronic chants and throwing things at each other is also normal, ie not news". So why use the incident of excrement being thrown by Liverpool fans to support your 'new low' argument? Again, the reader was left with a skewed persepctive. "I could have said a lot more in the paper on this subject except the same ground had just been covered by Martin Samuel in his column in the Times on Wednesday 22nd Feb. Martin has just won the sports writer of the year award, he was at the Liverpool-United match, and he dealt with the topic so well that I felt there was little to add to the debate four days later without merely echoing his sentiments". So why mention at all then? Mentioning it in such a one-eyed way is worse than ignoring the issue altogether and just feeds the perceived injustices felt by both sides. "The so-called knowledgeable and sporting Kop" Save the snide comments. They betray a hint of bias, as does the suggestion that a whole terrace of fans is devoid of knowledge or sportsmanship on the basis of the actions of some who sat there. ___________ And that was it. Ror those that want in 5 words or less - Paul Wilson is a c***.

Anyone care to guess which team Wilson supports? Clues They play in blue. Their ground is made of wood. They are excpetionally bitter. He is a horrible, horrible b*****d. I actually had some correspondence with him last year when he was going ape about the Alan Smith songs / s*** throwing / ambulance stuff, which I can post on here if anyone is interested. His replies were arrogance personified. And Will Buckley is, if anything, an even bigger c***. Shame, because it is generally such a good paper.

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That is my assessment so far. I'd like to see him trust his pace and just blast people when he gets the chance, which he has looked a bit reluctant to do. As you say though, that will come. There have been plenty of other positives in his game - he works hard, his corners are good and that is twice already that he is snook in at the far post to score a crucial goal.

Thought by his usual high standards Momo struggled a bit today, though I don't think it was because anyone bossed him - he just looked quite uncomfortable in possession at times, something which he has improved on a lot this season. Thought Zokora was pretty good for them, though not in the sense that he bossed Momo.

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Right on cue. I can only speak for myself and can't second guess the rest of the forum, but I wouldn't be having a go at him about a goal like that.

I think you can safely if that if any of our players had done that yesterday, and Andy Gray had slated the defending, that we would be up in arms and saying what an unstoppable strike it was. We do tend to overanalyse when things go wrong. Maybe we underanalyse when things go right, but I honestly don't think there is much that Carra could reasonably be expected to have done differently. And as for that semi-lietrate post about it happening too often to Carra - is the only response that deserves. I await the inevitable charge of 'If he wasn't a scouser / if it was Sami he'd been getting slated'

I do think that you tend to call things right and generally come across as someone who knows a bit about the game but I must admit, I'm not sure on this one. I think Carra was getting ready to just shepherd him away from goal and nobody was expecting the kind of hooked shot Drogba produced - note the lack of a dive from Reina as evidence of that (not a criticism of him particularly a la Kirkland, just a testament to the surprise element and power of the shot). I think the more dangerous thing to do in that situation is to actually get too tight as it can sometimes make it easire for the attacker to turn sharply and get a run on goal as they spin away from you - he was facing away from goal so I was happy enough to see Carra standing back half a yard as I don't think anyone could have expected the turn and shot in one. If he'd recieved the ball in the area it would have needed to be defended differently and he would have had to get tighter. It all just happened in the blink of an eyelid and you'd probably welcome the c*** trying to do it again as 99 times out of 100 it goes miles over or wide. Having said that, I haven't watched it as many times as you from the sounds of things!

Maybe 'very good' was a going too far, but I genuinely think he did ok - worked hard, tracked back and supported Warnock, made himself available for the ball, broke into the box a couple of times, hit some decent passes. Certainly don't think he was poor as some have been suggesting.

Is that a pisstake? Personal abuse! Personal abuse!

Where on earth was the personal abuse in that post? There was a frustrated tone to it admittedly, but probably because your post was so glibly negative and failed to consider any of the positives from the game - which is, err, kind of like what this thread was meant to be about. Plenty of other threads in which to post your doom and gloom outlook, I'm sure - and if not, you obviously have the choice of opening one. And opinion or not, I struggle to see how anyone can say they were the better side.