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Right on cue. I can only speak for myself and can't second guess the rest of the forum, but I wouldn't be having a go at him about a goal like that.

I think you can safely if that if any of our players had done that yesterday, and Andy Gray had slated the defending, that we would be up in arms and saying what an unstoppable strike it was. We do tend to overanalyse when things go wrong. Maybe we underanalyse when things go right, but I honestly don't think there is much that Carra could reasonably be expected to have done differently. And as for that semi-lietrate post about it happening too often to Carra - is the only response that deserves. I await the inevitable charge of 'If he wasn't a scouser / if it was Sami he'd been getting slated'

I do think that you tend to call things right and generally come across as someone who knows a bit about the game but I must admit, I'm not sure on this one. I think Carra was getting ready to just shepherd him away from goal and nobody was expecting the kind of hooked shot Drogba produced - note the lack of a dive from Reina as evidence of that (not a criticism of him particularly a la Kirkland, just a testament to the surprise element and power of the shot). I think the more dangerous thing to do in that situation is to actually get too tight as it can sometimes make it easire for the attacker to turn sharply and get a run on goal as they spin away from you - he was facing away from goal so I was happy enough to see Carra standing back half a yard as I don't think anyone could have expected the turn and shot in one. If he'd recieved the ball in the area it would have needed to be defended differently and he would have had to get tighter. It all just happened in the blink of an eyelid and you'd probably welcome the c*** trying to do it again as 99 times out of 100 it goes miles over or wide. Having said that, I haven't watched it as many times as you from the sounds of things!

Maybe 'very good' was a going too far, but I genuinely think he did ok - worked hard, tracked back and supported Warnock, made himself available for the ball, broke into the box a couple of times, hit some decent passes. Certainly don't think he was poor as some have been suggesting.

Is that a pisstake? Personal abuse! Personal abuse!

Where on earth was the personal abuse in that post? There was a frustrated tone to it admittedly, but probably because your post was so glibly negative and failed to consider any of the positives from the game - which is, err, kind of like what this thread was meant to be about. Plenty of other threads in which to post your doom and gloom outlook, I'm sure - and if not, you obviously have the choice of opening one. And opinion or not, I struggle to see how anyone can say they were the better side.

Sums it up for me. The scorelines in the last two league games have in no way, shape or form reflected what we have deserved to get from those matches. Woodwork again today at a crucial time. Nobody has mentioned Gerrard either - thought he was very good today. It is a horrible feeling, losing to those c**** always is, but some perspective please. They hardly looked streets ahead of us and our luck will change. Far, far too early to be writing us off for anything.

Really? What were they then, because they were barely in the game when they had 11 men let alone with 10. We weren't great, but we were far from s***.

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Absoloutely. Saying UEFA were directly to blame is as bad as Everton claiming that they their ban was totally groundless.

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There are 2 issues for me: 1 Were Everton fans blameless? 2 How much success were they denied? I have no problem with him addressing the myth that the behaviour of Everton fans was exemplary as it is clearly b******s, as is the suggestion that it was Heysel and Heysel alone that was taken into account when the ban was dished out. What I'm not comfortable with is when he starts going off into the debate about how much success they were actually denied becuase for me their whinging about that shold not even be dignified with a response. It just doesn't matter and anyone who tries to 'prove' that they may not have won the EC the next season is dangerously close to buying into the notion that if Everton were denied success, then that wold somehow make the tragedy worse (or at least in some sense 'theirs'). Fair play to the lad for the effort he took, I just think there is a fine line that at times he strays across.

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