Huyton_Red

Listen - enough of the b'ollocks eh We went to reading absolutely bristling with form, gerrard and torres playing worldy football If we had played 4-4-2 with babbel or kewell on the left and torres and another up front we would have won on Saturday If we had played 4-3-3 with kuyt right and babbel or kewell left and lucas in the middle so we could pass the ball like we had at newcastle we would have won saturday We didnt and we got beat and we are very, very, very lucky that carrager didnt get a yellow as well for the pen incident which meant hyppia and hobbs would have been facing Utd. He dropped a b'ollock and we lost, his other similar f'ck ups in the league this season have previously seen us get draws which isnt to bad. Stop making excused ffs about refs and about this being our first defeat. You can draw 38 f'ckin games and still get relegated. We have dropped 15 points, forget about how many we have lost, if we can carry on with this average of two points a game we will end up up 76 points and we will not win the league. We have played all the other top four at HOME after Sunday and have to go to all of them after xmas The f'ckin players at his disposal, that is what gets on peoples nerves, the players we have got we should not be scrapping for a f'ckin champions league place tomorrow and we should be a bit closer in the league as well. Use the players properly every week thats what drives people mad. Its the fourth year in charge, not the first, he knows the likes of reading will not lie down and die for us. Taking gerrard off was f'ckin ridiculous as well, absolutely shocking given that we where 3-1 down and had sissoko AND mascerano still on the pitch, dress it up how you like it was another baffling f'ck up He has created a f'ckin brilliant team there who when played properly can beat anyone but there is nothing that tells me he will ever change this every couple of months f'ck up that he does. I dread the team sheet every week to be honest. For four years we have been seeing readings and portsmouths, for the next four years we will see readings and portsmouths. Doesnt matter how well we are playing, how many goals we are scoring he will change it. And we will not win the league until either he changes or we end up spending that much money we have 20 players who are that good he can get away with his fiddling about and still win

We where just on the verge of pushing ourselves right up there and putting some pressure on the other three teams, we where playing some fantastic football battering everyone And he goes and has one of his f'ckin mad days on us again. The formation was all over the place, crouch playing wide ffs, the subs where all over the place, the team was all over the place. You only get three points for beating Utd, exactly the same as you get for beating Reading. No ball player in midfield, crouch wide, gerrard off, sissoko left on etc etc etc Loads of people paid a lot of money two weeks before christmas to go down and wach that game. Liverpool were finally starting to look like they might challenge again but they decided to f'ck about again and lose all the initiative they had spent the previois month building up. f'ckin about with mad team selections, mad subs and mad formations. De-ja-vu. Been here before, will be here again. I dont mind us losing anything because we are not good enough but it winds me up to see us beat ourselves trying to be to f'ckin clever. I have no problem with 4-3-3 it works with the right players, but not with mascerano and sissoko in midfield and crouch as one of the wide players ffs. Oh and how many more dodgy f'ckin decisions are we going to get against us this season

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I have not tipped us to win f'ck all.... Just emphasising how big this game against the mancs could potentially be.... Torres make us a completely different team IMO, he is incredibly important to us. Everyone talks about Arsenal 'playing us off the park' at anfield as a reason we will not win the league. We where on a bad run, they where in peak form - and they grabbed an equalizier with ten minutes to go and we did not have torres fit up front I dont fear anyone with us at full strength..... Xabi, Agger and Kewell will be fully fit and raring to go in the new year. Massive game this one against the mancs, f'ckin huge. When was the last time Liverpool won a major league game and laid down a marker for the title

Marseille does not really interest me to be honest League is what I am really into this year As I said at the start of my post, if we can keep up our away form at Reading then the manc game will take on huge significance, especially given than Arsenal will probably be 9 points ahead of us by that weekend (given that they play their game in hand on wednesday) F'ckin huge LEAGUE game for the first time in years Boss and well better than champions league games

I think this is the best Liverpool squad since we last won it under kenny, if we can keep up our away form against Reading next week the manc game the week after could be one of the most significant in years. If we can beat them and lets face it the lads owe us (the fans) a league win against the tw'ats dont they. Look at our next eight league games up until the start of February. Portsmouth H Derby County A Manchester City A Wigan Athletic H Middlesbrough A Aston Villa H West Ham A Sunderland H Now look at Arsenals post December 16th fixtures and lets assume Chelsea can either beat them or get a draw when they play the same day us and the mancs play Chelsea H Blackburn A Tottenham H Portsmouth A Everton A F'ck me lads, what an opportunity we have here hey.

He is defending well, but his distribution is still dodgy as hell though and nearly cost us a couple of times against Porto midweek I would feel much calmer if we had agger fully fit for the mancs to be honest

Are you having a laugh ? F'ckin ell lad, I have heard it all now Acting in the interest of the club my ar'se, he is trying to make a name for himself with the nationals in his new job In the time since he has been at the NOTW he has ran a multitude of negative comments, it started with hicks and gillete hating each other and wanting to sell, then the rafa WILL get sacked, not may get sacked WILL get sacked, his match reports have been negative and petty and yesterday he was still insisting rafa WILL get sacked He does not like the f'ckin owners, his employers do not like foreign owners of football clubs and he is on a mission to make name for himself He is a f'ckin snake who is destabilising our football club and youy talk about him wanting the best interest of the club. Do me a favour eh

Bascombe is a f'ckin fat snake who is trying to make a name for himself with the nationals Ignore the trouble causing divvy, he f'ckin started all this and still wont let it go.

mike = amercanilist

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He is absolutely incredible... I think he is actually doing better than anyone thought he would, he has settled in brilliantly to the premiership When he learns the language, settles down properly and gets a bit more experience he will be a thiery henry like phenomenon in this league Best striker in the world in three years he will be, at the moment he is like owen in his prime, he just does things out of nowhere to get us goals. I think the move has benefited him as well as us

We could lose tonight and still go through If Marseille win tonight we have to win If Marseille draw tonight we have to draw If Marseille lose we can lose and still go through by beating marseille away IF porto beat or draw with bestikas in the last game So we want marseille to lose tonight ideally

Can someone just clarify what happens if we draw and marseille draw as well tonight That will leave us three points off marseille, if we beat them over there would it come down to goal difference or does it come down to results between the two teams ? I have the answer to my question here, we would only need to beat them, even 1-0 to go throuh as we have the better overall goal difference 1) higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; 2) superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question; 3) higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question; 4) superior goal difference from all group matches played;

I dont think the issue is him being allowed to buy and sell players per se I think the issue is that rafa is negotiating prices etc and length of contracts I dont think the americans like this and I am sure rick parry does not like this as his role will have diminished already with the new owners. He should never have gone public like he did, it was mad - if he had issues he should have kept them in house and discussed then privately. The only reason I can see for him doing that was that he thought the undermining of his role was the first step to him being booted out and he wanted all us on side. There is a huge amount of pressure now off the field on an already huge game tommorow, I have always though this one would be more difficult than marseille away. And we all do not know exactly how serious they are about sacking him, I do not think they are stupid enough to sack him

I do mate I dont think they where happy about the way he ranted at the same this summer but everything seemed ok They have had a bit of a shock in how much the staduim costs etc have increased and looking at the champions league situation have told rafa privately that they want to wait before committing to new players He then come out and did that press conference and they are probably thinking well f'ck this, who does this guy think he is. They HAVE to look good to us, the fans because their whole business model is based on us filling a 76,000 seater staduim, rafa is making them look bad and they will simply not have this. It is a fight he cant win and he should never have started

Benitez should never, ever have gone public like he did in that press conference last week and publicly attacked the owners like he did It was stupid and I bet he is regretting it now That is what started all of this, the manager in that press conference acting like a spoilt kid. His olive branch in yesterdays echo I hope will smooth this all over but he has brought this nonsense on the whole club and I hope he learns from this. BUT - If they sack him I am walking away from it and I am not coming back, they can f'ck off and I mean that. Its the end for me if rafa goes. I am hopeful everything know calms down but I fear for what will happen if we go out tommorow

Weird thing is and this sounds mad but the next 5 games could decide whether rafa loses his job or not IF we go out of Europe and fall a bit back in the league it will give them the excuse it seems they are looking for to get rid of him F'ckin ell lads - we could have f'ckin mourhino in charge by christmas - god almighty this is mad

Someone is briefing bascombe against the owners of Liverpool or he is creating his own campaign against them A couple of weeks ago they ran a big back page exclusive in the news of the world saying they hated each other and there was deep divisions yesterday they ran another one saying rafa WILL be sacked, not maybe sacked but WILL be sacked Treacherous little f'cker he is. NOTW has had the guns out for gillet and hicks twice now in two weeks.

If they sack Rafa I am walking away from it for good and not coming back, its the final nail in the coffin for me

Madness this The whole thing is f'ckin madness

He used to be chief footy writer of the Liverpool Echo

And that was rafa's fault And I think he needs to take a hard long look at himself, NO ONE and I mean NO ONE is bigger than Liverpool FC

Eh ? Dont be daft, the americans have delivered on everything they promised up to now and more, we will get a proper new stadium with 76,000 seats instead of a 60,000 seater relic that would not have even addressed the season ticket problem We have spent very well this summer as well, we have bought about 20 kids and completely restructured the youth setup What the f'ckin do you lot want like, another £30 million in january regardless of whether we go out of the champions league or not ? Get in the real world eh, f'ckin ell.