Huyton_Red

Right here we go Torres £20 million Babel £11.5 Levia £6 million Benayoun £5 million Skirtel £6.5 million Voronin (free but with a nice big signing on fee) Damien Plessi (Undisclosed) Peter Gulacsi (Undisclosed) Charles Itandje (Undisclosed) N Mihaylov (Undisclosed) A Kacaniklic (Undisclosed) K Nemeth (£100,000) A Simon (£100,000), D Pacheco (£350,000), D Amoo (Undisclosed) M Purie (Undisclosed) M San José (£270,000) M Alexandrov (Undisclosed) R Crowther (Undisclosed) B Robinson (Undisclosed) and mascerano in the next few weeks for £17 million £67 million before you add the 'undisclosed' amounts and the big fat signing on fee voronin got. Around £70 million in SEVEN months. And we have bought more kids than that as well on undisclosed fee's, we have bouught about 20 since heighway was sacked off and benitez given charge of the kids as well Dont take it out on me because I tell you the truth

ha ha ha Tell you what you kiss my big fat a'rse and then I will agree to your 'demands' boss

Aye maybe a t*** but I am right

F'ck me was the money borrowed then steve ? That means Utd havent spent anyting either come to think of it neither did Arsenal in fact chelsea didnt either because do you think abramovich simply GIVES money away What do you want ? The club to only buy players that they can afford now on current turnover if so why did we sell it, thats what we did for years with moores or do you want the owners to borrow and invest in playters NOW with the plan of paying for this at a later date when we have the new staduim and the club has finaly been sorted out off the pictch with regards to commercial stuff Liverpool FC can NOT afford to spend £70 million seven months without borrowing money and they can NOT afford not to buy the likes of torres and mascerano without risk of falling even further behind. They are investing in the team, thats what we all f'ckin want so lets not start with all this 'but we cant afford it' nonsense The only reason we where sold was for the new owners to do exactly what they are doing, raise finance and INVEST in the team to try and make us competive in the short term while we get a staduim built I am fed up now with the whole thing, f'ckin banners calling for DIC for god sake. DIC would be doing exactly the same f'ckin thing its a joke. They have made many mistakes, going public on the klinsman thing the biggest but they have also done what they where brought in to do, spent a huge amount of money on players and got the staduim moving Lets all have a look at the league table now and ask why all these players are fith, 14 points off the top again in January. Thats the thing that is f'ckin worrying me this morning to be frank. Not where the money for mascerano is coming from but why the manager cant seem to get close to the top when you give mascerano and you give him torres and you give him babbel etc etc etc

F'ck all to do with it is it They have done what WE wanted, they have backed our manager with a HUGE amount of money havent they. Whether they borrowed that or robbed it off their ma's it doesnt matter. They have allowed the manager to spend cloud cukoo money over the last seven months - he has been able to operate in cloud utd/chelsea land and spend f'ckin obscene amounts of money when compared to the other clubs in the league SEVENTY million pound in SEVEN months, its the sort of outlay we all used to look at Utd spending and think 'f'ck me' They are also going to start the new staduim project That is why Liverpool FC where sold by moores wasnt it, to get a new staduim and to compete with Utd and Chelsea in the transfer market I am being slightly mischevious, as I always am, but when presented with the FACTS today ie they havent loaded money onto the club they have spent £70 million on players they thought about replacing rafa - errrr f'ckin HALF of this forum have done exactly the same may I add. He is not delivering is he at the moment. They where to f'ckin honest in saying they spoke to klinsman and they should never have done that but if they werent at least thinking about rafa's future then they would be doing their job to be honest, our league form this season has been f'ckin awful AND they ripped the 60,000 seater parrydome plans up and are going to give us a 70,000 seater which we all think is about the right capacity

I am being slightly sarcastic as ever RP but there is a valid point in what I am saying When they buy mascerano in the next couple of weeks that will be over £70 million on players in 7 months. Regardless of what we have got back that is a hell of a lot of money available for any manager to spend I am sure you will agree And far more than any previous liverpool manager has ever dreamed of having available

I added all the money rafa has spent in the last seven months together (including the £17 million he is about to spend on mascerano) and very, very, very conservatively estimated the outlay on the twenty odd kids we have bought at about £3.5 million in total £70 million in SEVEN months To be frank, that is backing the manager isnt it and it is backing him well

Another £17 million spent by the looks of it Focus moves to the manager now for the rest of the season Well over £70 million spent in 7 months it is time to f'ckin perform to be frank. The lot of them need a kick up the ar'se, no more hiding behind this ownership fiasco Mascerano is a great signing, brilliant player and I made up we are signing him but this is yet again a large amount of money on a player and we need to start f'ckin getting results

Torres £20 million , Babbel £11.5 million, Benayoun £5 million, Lucas £6 million, Skirtel £7 million and then mascerano £17 million. Then the manager has been given the go ahead to sign about 20 of europes finest youngsters for fees ranging from nothing to £350,000 each Not bad eh for 7 months in the transfer market dont yeh think WELL over £70 million pounds F'ckin americans

Thats cos your an ugly b'astard probably

If you all have a whip round and pay for the new sofa the missus has been nagging me for I will change it to Huyton_Hicks and put the curse on him, he will be gone within months

F'ckin ell

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For all of you that want the americans out this refinance deal actually makes it a lot easier for them to sell up They have basically seperated the money used to buy the club from the money used to invest in the club They have loaded the money that they will use to start work on the new staduim and the money spent on players etc onto the club, ideal for a takeover by someone else. They have then seperated the money to buy the clubs shares, again ideal for a takeovever by someone else DIC could now simply buy Kop Holdings and take on the clubs debt This does not rule out a takeover at all

They have mate, around £55 million cash isnt it along with guarantees against the ENTIRE loan taken out to buy the club This is exactly what DIC would have done, they would have raised finance to buy the club. That is what investment companies do, they use minimum amounts of their own cash and the rest is raised through finance. They then attempt to grow the company using it to pay off their investment and then make them a healthy return at the end The reason these people are investors are they can raise huge amounts of finance, not because they have bottomless pits of cash At the end of the day whether it be DIC or the americans every penny they put in they would want back and then some. Thats a fact and the sooner we all get used to this the better and maybe everyone can calm down a bit then

Because yesterday the Liverpool Echo/Post led campaign had led me and all of you into a frenzy with blatant lies about the owners attempting to put £350 million worth of debt on the club which if was defaulted would have involved the club being liable The deal is exactly what it was when they arrived and you all thought they where great, the money they bought the club with is secured by them, the money for starting to build the new stadium and for players is secured against the club We will no doubt borrow more money over the next two or three years in order to compete in the transfer market whislt the staduim is being built, there is a business plan in place, of course there is they would not have got the money otherwise. Its called investing Exactly what DIC would have done We have been sold a pup by the echo/post here - and the article today portraying moores and parry as some sort of saviours who veteod the bid by the nasty americans to load the club with £350 million of debt is insulting our intelligence. We wanted world class players - we got torres We wanted a bigger new staduim that 60,000 - We are getting one at a sensible capacity of 70,000 If they have doubts about rafa being the man for Liverpool they are not alone are they, lets be honest, f'ckin ell four yeard down the line we are exactly where we was in his first season, behind everton in the league. They are right to ask questions, I wish moored would have earlier with houllier The whole thing has seen us gullible b'astards be whipped into a frenzy and I feel a prat for allowing the echo/post to have done that with me and they will never do it again, not to me anyway

So what did you think was going to happen, george and tom where just going to invest £240 million to buy the club and then not expect the club to pay for this investment by way of dividends every year ? DIC would have done excatly the same as well by the way. Investers dont buy things to donate their money, they buy them to make a return on their investment Come on eh lads lets all get back in the real world - we all knew that we would pay back the money they put into the club every year through dividends, ffs why else would they invest We all knew this last year, nothings changed There was always a big loan to pay off for the americans and they where always going to use money from Liverpool FC to pay that

The staduim loan should be a lot easier to obtain because that will be secured entirely against the club and it will be secured against future ticket revenue, with liverpools season ticket waiting list etc that should be fine

Here is an example of the misheif making I am talking about, especially from the echo/post Title of this story "Hicks and Gillett re-loan will put £150m debt onto Liverpool FC" http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...64375-20384276/ Then the article goes on to say "It is understood the club will take on £105m, Kop Investment, the holding company set up by Hicks and Gillett in the immediate aftermath of last year’s takeover, will take on £190m, with the co-owners having been asked to put up £55m of their own money." The title is a blatant lie and over exagaration and directly contradicts what they are saying in the article Someone at the Echo/Post has an agenda

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Nah Its just more mischeif making to cause more trouble between the fans and the owners IMO

If DIC went ahead with the proposed £350 million deal tommorow, the club would end up more than £350 milloon in debt, because whether you like it or not that money would be raised through finance and Liverpool FC would pay that back, as well as the transfer money and the new staduim money Liverpool FC where always in £240 million worth of debt from the day the club was sold, indirect debt but debt none the less that Liverpool FC through profits would pay back They didnt buy the f'ckin thing to make a loss did they

Every penny and I say again EVERY PENNY DIC invested in Liverpool FC would be raised with finance Every penny and I say again EVERY PENNY of interest that finance incurred would be paid for by LFC, whether that be in the short or long term It has absolutely nothing to with the assets of each company, the only difference that makes is their ability to raise finance, that is the ONLY difference between the two. DIC would have no problem borrowing £100 million for players till the staduim was built for example, but every penny of it WOULD BE BORROWED and would be paid back by Liverpool FC, eventually All investers like DIC and hicks do is raise finance and put a little of their own money in, they DO NOT invest their own money

EXACTLY as they would have with DIC

Just read it Do the same survey after all the FACTS come out tommorow eh, when we all see we have been sent into a frenzy by the press who lied to us about what was actually going on and then lets see the results again