JonShar

Really? Channel 670?

Who was slated merely for proffering a different standpoint?

That was kind of the original point mate.

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He'd love it if it wasn't at the expense of someone who could drop back into midfield when needed, or defend corners, etc.

Bring Back Rosenthal.

It was called for mate, you get like this after every game we don't win and it's quite bloody irritating. Of course I've slagged players and managers off, but it's by far the exception. Today, Riise got a good slagging cause he's been s*** all season - Agger was poor against Newcastle, but he didn't get a good slagging because it's unusual for him. It's perspective, and it's sadly lacking around here when things don't go the way we want them to.

Rafa, know what he's talking about? Give over! Feck me, some people still haven't figured out that Benitez doesn't favour a style where the strikers bag 30 goals a season. He wants them spread throughout the team, so we defend and attack as a unit. My god, he's been here for 3 years, haven't you some of you people figured this out yet? (Kring, this isn't directed at you by the way!)

That's what you're complaining about innit? Me having a different opinion to you "does you head in", right? Oooh, tosser, nice one. I spelled it out on the other thread you started, which was frankly embarrassing. I just thought it deserved a topic of it's own too - if we can slag off the players and manager, and that's called "having an opinion", then surely we can slag off the people slagging off the players and the manager, and that can be "having an opinion" too.

But he'd be offside an awful lot if he did that.

...in believing in the ability of Emile Heskey, but not believing in the ability of some of our current players?

It's getting tedious reading s*** like this every time we don't win by 8 goals.

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In a sea of strange comments, that's one of the strangest you've ever made.

Probably not, he's right.

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The kneejerker comment was aimed more at a couple other posters, they stand out if you read through the thread. Course it's not good enough, but it ain't Rafa's fault. This is the best style of play I've seen from us in a long time, but I think some of the players are letting us down. Other than Arsenal and ManUre this year I can't think of a game where the opponents have had more efforts on goal than we have - so is it Rafa's fault we aren't better than we are? Sure, the "ultimate" responsibility lies at the manager's feet, but the one thing I'm confident about with Rafa is that he knows exactly what our weaknesses are and has the ability and recruiting talent to fix them - I have no doubt he has replacements already pencilled down for some of the inconsistent performers. Just like any manager in any industry you're only as good as your team - but the great ones have plans in place to upgrade, and Benitez seems to be good at that. Today for example: the first goal was pure luck, the second was the kind of lazy, stupid challenge Riise has been making all season - and Rafa has called it the same - and Bellamy and Kuyt have missed 4 fantastic chances to score.

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Aye, I'm detached. Whatever. I've been a Liverpool fan for 24 years. I've seen good seasons and bad. I've seen the highs of winning the league, European Cup, and domestic cups, and the lows of Heysel and Hillsborough. I'm as attached as any Liverpool fan is, and you can feck off for questioning it. We just finished a 16-game unbeaten run - perspective is realizing that we just lost a game we dominated in conditions that were barely playable, throwing things at the telly during the game but knowing it doesn't make us a s*** team all of a sudden afterwards. You're damn right we've no god given right to finish in the top four, although the way some of you lot carry on you'd think we do. Take away the cups for a moment, are you kidding me? That's like saying "Take away the temperature, is the summer any warmer than the winter?" The Champions League win was my best moment as a fan in the past 15 years, I'll take it thank you very much. You kids can bitch, whine, and knee-jerk all you want to after a game - but don't cry when people come along with the opinion that you're idiots for doing so.

Sing when you're winning...