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Saw them. The police were having a go at them before kick off. I was row R, directly in line with the commentry box but a few rows back. Also a big middle finger to the g*******s singing "he cracked her 5 times" about Cisse. Shipman songs going in the pub before the game as well but I suppose that's to be expected after last weeks events outside Old Trafford. Shouldn't focus on the t***s though, fans were all-round decent enough and in good humour today, full credit to the sheep and the lad at the front with the European Cup which was at Luton. Fair play to the stewards for holding it up with him as well.

You will for aways though which is the only reason I want one, I can already get sorted for all the league games on my PTS.

Strangely I find London aways easier to get tickets for than most apart from Midlands which never seem to have a big demand. Only London away I've been to which has had a big demand is Spurs, that said I've not been to Highbury before. North Western aways are obviously harder because of the location.

Let's just take his comments at face value and not delve deeper into the positives and negatives of Monsieur Anelka. Yet another player has told the blues**** to do one and has specifically said it's because of us. I bet they wish their players had the same kind of loyalty when considering which club to further their careers at: Xavier Barmby Mcmahon Rooney etc, etc, etc. The blues**** will be foaming at the mouth, because, let's face it, he's as good as they could hope for and they have yet another thing to blame on us.

Bayer Levekusen lads were some of the soundest away support I've met. Then again if Liverpool and Chelsea fans went to different German away sides, then both away sides would have largely differing views on how English football fans behave.

This will probably hit general anyway, can't imagine it being too popular 6PM on a Sunday.

As I said, not having a go, just asking because I couldn't work it out.

You've met the sound ones clearly. The ones I've met are arrogant t***s. They seem to think singing about gassing jews (spurs yid army) constitutes a good song. I'm guessing you've not been to a Liverpool V Chelsea game and had to sit right next to the away end hearing them sing "your seasons over" and all their oh so funny anti-scouse chants. Of course them waving 20 quid notes, and singing "loadsa loadsa money" is especially vomit enducing. Listening to the t***s get outsung at Anfield in Europe, then right at the end when they've been knocked out you hear "Your support is fackin' s***." I've met people who refuse to go back to Stamford Bridge because they've been spat on all match by Chelsea fans and I seem to remember somebody posting a report of Chelsea away when they beat us to get into Europe and a load of Chelsea lads telling a young girl with a Liverpool top on to "f*** off back to her slums." Ones I've met have gone on about how going to Liverpool is like going back in time because it's such a s***hole, like Coronation Street etc. Walking round Thopre Park with a Liverpool top on and getting called a "Scazzer cant" g*******s of the highest order.

I'll settle for a win at the Bridge for now. Oh what fun that would be, leaping round like a loon in the Shed End looking at the sickened faces of the Cockneys.

Are you a Chelsea fan out of interest? Not having a go just asking like. And to answer your question, I'm not an England fan for the very reason that there are t***s like Lampard, Rooney, Neville etc in the team.

Where have I said I've been to their site? For the record I have been there to ask for some tips on Chelsea way (where to drink etc.) The post got deleted for no reason.

Saw a few familiar faces at Reading Festival as well actually. Some scal tried to flog me and my mate some wristbands to get in for 130 each, not actually a touted price because the tickets were that price so it was obviously a fake. Me and my mate ended up paying 180 for real tickets but my mate got blagged by a cockney for 140 on a fake ticket and thrown out. Touts, hate the t***s, normally I'd tell them to f*** off but I'd decided I was going to Reading on the day of the festival and normally there are legit tickets going from the box office on the first day but we arrived late and they'd sold out so we didn't have much option.

Sorry. I thought there's a good chance it would be but I couldn't see it anywhere and it's a difficult thing to search for.

http://www.paperboy.nl/index.cfm?PID=D558D...586BE9DCE05614A

Yes, as I said several times in my post that will always be the case. But if we're challenging them every year for trophies and if they continue to spend stupid amounts of cash and if Mourinho continues to act like the beaut he is at the moment then surely things will develop from there? They'll never be considered the enemy like the mancs and the bitters but for a rivalry between us and them to develop I don't think it would take much more to be honest.

One thing I will say though is I think Chelsea fans are worse than the Mancs. Granted there's fights when we play United but that's a deep rivalry and go to Chelsea/Spurs, Villa/Brum, Southampton/Pompey etc and you'll see the same. Mancs are at least north westerners and whilst they take the piss out of Liverpool I know a lot who have mates that are scousers and can at least relate to the Liverpool attitude etc and the North of England as a whole. Chelsea fans on the other hand believe London is some sort of ivory tower and anything north of it is full of thick scum who are all on the dole. The amount of them I've met who seem to be under some sort of delusion that London is this fantastic city full of welcoming, freindly people whislt Liverpool is an incarnation of hell is ridiculous.

Manc or Bluenose I take it?

At the moment it's really just a manifestation of the press. It all actually started with that match at Stamford Bridge where they beat us to get into Europe, they then beat us the following season at Anfield with that flukey last minute goal and it's continued to develop from there. Obviously the Gerrard to Chelsea stories and the Russian's investment have allowed it to get really heated and with the encounters last season it hit boiling point. Now I know it will never be in the same league as the Blues**** and Man United but at the moment we're the best 2 sides in the league and I can see that developing. If we're constantly challenging each other for the the top honours then inevitably a rivalry will develop. Cockneys are also not too highly thought of around Anfield and the arrogance and condescending attitude of Chelsea fans in paticular does make you want to puke. Any fans that wave 20 pound notes at football are especially vomit enducing. Added to the fact that so many prize beauts such as Terry and Lampard are in that team it does make Chelsea a very hateful team, easily as hateful objectively as the Mancs although I'll always hate them far more than Chelsea for obvious reasons- although I'm not sure that fans of other sides would. Then you have c***s such as Mourinho,Kenyon and Abramovich involved at a high level, constantly trying to undermine us. Mourinho with his comments about how we picked him over Raffa but he said no, and if this story about them trying to sign Simao and then loan him back out to Benfica then the level of hatred is only going to increase. I don't paticularly have a problem with a rivalry developing, I've never liked Chelsea because as I said earlier, the majority of their fans are a bunch of vomit enducing chavs. As long as people don't start considering Chelsea on the same level as the Mancs and the Bitters then it makes for a healthy rivalry and a better atmosphere at the matches. I'm not one to hate sides for no reason, I always had respect for Arsenal when they were at their best although admitedly how sickeningly good they were contrasted with our state at the time was very hard to stomach. But this Chelsea side is especially hateful, their dodgy decisons that refs grant them, Andy Gray constantly creaming himself over them and their flukey deflected goals, and as I stated various members of the personal make the whole club very easy to hate. They'll never be near the Mancs and the Bitters but could Chelsea become a distant 3rd? In many people's mind they probably already are a distant 3rd.

Interesting, not sure what harm the fanzine sellers are doing. To be fair to the Police they do seem to be on hand when you need them. My mate had his Chelsea semi-final ticket robbed when he had it out queuing up to get in. He legged it after the f***** and the Police stopped him and he got his ticket back. Not sure how often it is for the Police to actually be there at the right time admitedly. They deffo make very little effort to stop touts anyway, every game they come up to me either looking for or trying to sell tickets, I've never seen one nicked in my life. Very rarely see them at aways though.

I remember before the Carling Cup final in 2003 where they spent 2 weeks telling us about how it mattered this year and how they'd do us, their class would show etc etc. We win and it's a mickey mouse cup. Any money they're now taking it seriously again, then I suppose Bolton and Boro take it seriously because it's the only thing they stand a chance of winning, by that logic I suppose the Mancs would do.

We aren't the sort of fans to boo a manager, a few gobarses that call themselves Liverpool fans are- sadly these get more attention than the ones that get behind the manager because it's more dramatic. I remember being in the Kop after the Newcastle game at the end of Houllier's last season, whilst the team was doing the lap of honour most of the ground was singing "Allez, Allez, Gerard Houllier".

As the red sun descended on an Anfield night, Two strong warriors prepared for a fight, It was North vs South, Red vs Blue, We'll show these chirpy cockneys a thing or f***ing two There was so much to play for, so much at stake, It could all be lost on just one mistake, Mates told me stories of games and famous sights, "Oh for f*** sake please let this be my night" As I walked into the Kop shaking with fear You'd never believe what I was about to hear 43,000 reds in passionate song, praying for the glory to please carry on The arrogant cockneys were to be the reds foe, The team bus rolled in "two down, one to go" Mourinho and Lampard, Terry and Cole, This Chelsea team had everything barr history and soul The Kop was a sea of red and of white, "The fans won't bother us, we'll be alright" But we were far more than the special one expected, As much was said when a nervous glance towards the Kop was directed The match kicked off, the drama begun, Let's start off well, get these c***s on the run, Stevie Gerrard with an early through ball, Luis Garcia begun the cockney's fall Was it over the line?Who gives a s****? The refs given it, we're winning the fight Have that you cockney c***s, we're winning one-nil, But plenty more drama awaited us still Tick followed tock as the game carried on, Thousands of Kopites encompassed in song, The ref blew his whistle to signal the break, "f*** me, I need a rest, I can hardly see straight" My ears were ringing, my voice torn to shreds, And there was still 45 left to get behind the reds A deafening roar signalled the start of the half, Back to my seat, christ that went fast, Just half a match left, please let us hold on, They all said we'd lose, lets prove the c***s wrong, Attack followed attack but Chelsea couldn't crack the code, A defiant wall of red protected the fields of Anfield Road, Chelsea were done, running out of ideas, We were turning the 20 pound notes into thousands of tears The clock hit 90, how long to go? 6 minutes? f***ing hell no! My mouth's dry as f***, I can't take much more, My hearts going mental, my f***ing throats sore Come on reds, we're so nearly there, But for 5 seconds our dreams turned to despair When Eidur hit that shot I thought "f*** here we go" The Cockneys practically celebrating the winning goal, Somehow, someway the shot went wide, The cockneys attacks were about to subside "We shall not be moved" proclaimed the Kop, There was only just seconds left on the clock, The ref blew his whistle, we'd done it, we'd won, We're off the Istanbul, there's a trophy to be won Stevie punched the air in crazy dellight, Kopites rejoicing, "Oh what a sight" The scarves were lifted, people got out their phones, As the ground joined in unison for You'll Never Walk Alone, I'll never forget it as long as I live, Standing there singing with no more to give, As tears filled my eyes, my hairs stood on end, My years of waiting finally came to an end, As the chirpy Cockneys sat and absorbed the sight, Kopites were embazled with Turkish delight, The Kop going crazy, grown men in tears, Stevie and the lads have rolled back the years, St. Etienne and Inter when we did so well, Finally I had my own story to tell, I never saw the ginger super-sub's goal But I was there when we beat the team with no soul Eventually I walked out the ground grinning ear to ear, Hugging random strangers, The European Cup was near, In a eurphoric state of disbelief and bliss, "How have we come from Grazer to this?" We gathered round shanks statue and draped him in red, "Shankly,Shankly,Shankly" we f***in' love you we said, Through the celebrations remembering 96 souls, 96 Reds that never saw Luis' goal Stood near a phone box catching my b reath, I saw a Liverpool flag "Is this your's?" I said, Nobody claimed it so I took it with me, The flags still here as my 3rd of May memory The flag sits here, just by my side, And will be forever until the day that I die Josh Murphy

My Man United fan mate informed me of the following: It's apperently pathetic that we nearly lost to a side that aren't even in the Championship Yes, spot the knowledgable Manc's deliberate mistake. Alonso, a player that he "dosen't rate" was apperently lucky with the first goal, and "should have passed" for the second, so he is effectively s****, apperently. We also should be worried, due to losing 3-1 to a Championship team (this is after I let him know what division Luton are in) of course he omitted the 4 goals that we scored and incidently omitted United drawing 0-0 with Exeter City last season. It gives you that smug sense of satisfaction when you know that fans all over the country are creaming themselves at the thought of us slipping up, only for us to go and score 5 and f*** the lot of them over.

I think "club legend" is giving him a little too much credit, Carra is a club legend, Owen had the chance to become one but decided that Madrid was a better option. Anyway, I didn't boo him but I did sing "where we you in Istanbul" and "you should have signed for a big club". No mallice in the chants, just a laugh and I'm sure Owen knows this city well enough to realise it's a joke.

To be fair, it wasn't really much more obvious than Knight's handball at the other end. Just down to Poll being his usual indecisive self and not making big decisions if he can possibly avoid it. Really, can you see him giving him a penalty 5 minutes from time which can level the match up against Chelsea when he's not given them a penalty for a similar thing and has since realised that he's probably got that decision wrong?