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that's exactly the position i was in

I still say henry shades it

I thought it was ours

I like him cos he's got a cool surname

they've won 3 in very recent times. I don't like Real Madrid but your argument is sounding a bit "football began in 1992". there was only ever one guy who truly stole your heart dus. And you never recovered from them sacking ged

Do I look like Cisse's mate?

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have you seen him take corners and free kicks. So many of them are on the money. It's an ability eskimo not some sort of magical cheat

well yeah that's what i was driving at

I don't like entrenching myself into a position in the face of facts, it makes you look daft and i'm changing my mind on him. He still has occassional moments where he makes me laugh like when all of a sudden he came out with the G14 line. My dad and I burst out laughing but now set against the wider backdrop of his continuing antics he's just lacking in footballing morality. It's possible to defend everything he does individually but then once a body of evidence builds up then you just throw your hands up and decree "Tosser".

"Liverpool over chelsea everytime" was the quote. He was eminently gettable as he was managing in portugal. that helped make him the outstanding candidate. Those who say they wanted Benitez all along are doing a disservice to the imagination of Parry and i'm pretty sure that there are few who don't want to do that being as how they wuv him. I didn't see Benitez's name mentioned once, not one solitary time until the first major story making it clear it was him.

Yakubu and Rochemback did it to him but I agree. I thought he was really good last night. Because Henry mugged carra is carra schit or do we just conceed Henry is on of the best in the world

No offence but i have to seriously doubt the veracity of the claims of those who say they wanted Benitez before it was clear that he was going to get the job. Don't tell me that all through 2003-4 you were campaigning for him. Just before ged was sacked was anybody seriously saying let's go get that bloke that has just won another title and a UEFA cup with his club because he's bound to want to leave. I don't believe that most had even heard of him and those who had would have placed him in a fantasy manager category of which the top one was Capello and that would have been their man. In the real world the outstanding candidates to replace ged were O'neil (who I didn't want) and Mourinho who I did want (because he wasn't O'neil). does that make Real Madrid us?

Bayern Munich twice, Chelsea v barca last year. Chelsea's 0-0 with arsenal last year at SB in the league. Arsenal v Chelsea in the european cup I think he was outstanding last year but yeah a lot of the time he leaves me underwhelmed. Against Argentina he played in exactly the same postion as riquelme and there was no comparison. I still think he's very very good. What about in the first half where he beat a man and sent in a lovely cross or in the second where on the touchline he showed lovely technique to go past someone and pass it down the line. And what about the top class pass he played to duff. He wasn't the dominant figure but he still had moments, well those three anyway.

Word to the wise macca. If you're going to cast aspersions over the intelligence of others then get your spelling right.

agree with all of that. I think they were trying to draw barca out and then nick a goal but the only time they looked like doing that in the first half was Robben's shot. Even that was the only time robben got in down that Right wing position all game. Cole has more craft than Robben and uff and should have been the central one behind drogba. It was all just odd.

They weren't willing to commit enough bodies forward to join the attack. Had they done so they could have got Robben on the ball in dangerous positions. They had to get more men advanced of the ball to give their players in midfield something to hit. They could have been caught out at the back but they were two goals down and barca scoring 1 didn't matter

how good is this lad by the way. You could see the class difference as soon as he came on. Movement is out of this world.

That's because they didn't. They were shocking. You're two goals down In the European Cup and you barely even try and score. I'll tell you what those tactics were last night. They were shytehouse.

People talk so much crap about him (Mourinho not Cobs, everything they say about him is true), it gets annoying to read Porto lost all their best players and manager how can you pin that on Mourinho. See it's this that i'm talking about but he's got a better record head to head with Benitez and his record is level with rijkaard. It's hardly surprising that other top managers get the better of him occassionally and oh yeah i wanted houllier to stay so what do i know

yeah but what's the point in me listing them cos unles i name 358937963505 you'll say it's not enough. If Lampard had reacted like mourinho we'd all slate him. What does it bother anyone here he was friendly with the game's outstanding player. Is it because itll be pictured in the papers tomorrow and people will say "look two great players". Are you all that insecure about Lampard.

what's the point in having crouch if you have to do that

yes but he's playing well now. and all the more reason to applaud cole cos he has to play wide. I think duff's poor year has been largely down to him

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he was ace in his first year and a half tbf how come robben (over his bad spell ignoring tonight) and cole do alright?