Sir Tokyo Sexwale

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That save from Mbuemo on 86 mins. The commentators in the US made little of it - it was a good save but a really poor miss when 1 on 1 - but nothing was said

Shaw should have gone too - but if he had Spurs would probably have lost

guys - you know ManU are gonna win this - don't do it to yourselves

Fulham are f***ing garbage - we failed to score against them Chelsea are mental 15-13 in 6 games (F-A) arsenal are pricks Villa are s*** too

wait - you can't plead not guilty and then try to negotiate when found guilty

referees - clear as day red card in the Sunderland game, attacker spins the defender, who falls across his back, no contact with the ball, not even close, both hit the deck - play on says the ref. VAR calls it - red card DOGSO

it's hard to foresee since it's so without precedent. Think the PL know it has to be severe otherwise it just undermines all of the last years of pushing the case. It also needs to be a deterrent to everyone else (Chelsea). If they get 90 points this season, yeah 60 may not relegate them. Didn't someone say the chequered flag is 27 Jan? I guess it's business as usual for them till then at the latest

a couple of 'our country' lines in there though..... trouble is, a simple relegation without further punishment - they've got a very good chance at promotion right away. They cheated for years, their punishment needs to reflect that. They sholud start with docked points every year for a bunch of years. Take your 60 this season and call it 114 total for LOLS then make it 18 point deductions for each of the following 3 seasons or something

thing is without very severe penalties, they'd be back in the PL in a season. Not quite the same but Rangers were relegated to the Scottish 4th Div and promoted in 4 seasons - they lost the playoff final the season before they were promoted back to the SPL exactly - other sides use it as the worst imaginable taste stick to beat us with. he reality is English footy hooliganism was pretty f***ing bad - the Leeds ECF, Euro 80, Man U in Turin in 84, I remember a ferry for a pre season game in I think the Netherlands had West Ham and maybe Spurs on it kicking off, Millwall everywhere but domestically, Spain 82 as I remember although the Spanish bizzies went in hard. And a load more I can't even be bothered to remember

I f***ing hate international footy

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yes, only the City players are suffering. And think of their supporters - no-one else. Don't think of Stoke who could have won their first honour in 40 years

what was he doing? He should have known there was no-one behind him

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Hodgson was the devil I was gonna say - people stop looking for ways to absolve the Owl, facts don't matter here; it's his fault. The massive knobbed owl-like c***

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telegraph - blaming immigrants I assume

At least France rested him - England would have played him regardless & he'd then be out til Jan

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delete this post and re-post saying you've heard it's serious