Staying on their feet

[San Diego Red]

Stevie could have scored from that, but he saw the line and dropped to the floor as soon as he felt the contact. It was really appalling to be honest. Players nowadays really need to stay on their feet, it's disgraceful.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

indeed.

 

ball to hand too

[Herbie von Smalls]

balls. he had his ankle clipped after he'd already been put off balance round his knees. he could've milked it and acted injured drogba stylee, but got up straight away, knowing full well it was a stonewall penalty.

[DazzlaJ]

Stevie could have scored from that, but he saw the line and dropped to the floor as soon as he felt the contact. It was really appalling to be honest. Players nowadays really need to stay on their feet, it's disgraceful.

 

What a crock of s***

[MFletcher]

Put the Gerrard bashing stick away.

 

He was fouled and it was a stonewall penalty.

[TheLa]

Stevie could have scored from that, but he saw the line and dropped to the floor as soon as he felt the contact. It was really appalling to be honest. Players nowadays really need to stay on their feet, it's disgraceful.

 

b******s! Some people need their f***ing heads checking. Hibbert had hold of Gerrard. If Gerrard stays on his feet, the ref (wrongly) doesn't give the pen, despite Hibbert quite clearly fouling Gerrard. Gerrard goes down and is rightly given a pen.

 

And going on Gerrards recent form, he'd have never scored, probably would've kicked it out for a throw or a corner or something.

[Leroy]

Have another look, he was also dragging on his shirt you could see loads of white T-Shirt

[Florist Cinema Pond Goal]

Astute play from Gerrard.

 

He was looking for it but Hibbert was all over him. As a defender you can't tug at a player's shirt as you run into the penalty area and not expect repercussions.

[John am Rhein]

Stevie could have scored from that, but he saw the line and dropped to the floor as soon as he felt the contact. It was really appalling to be honest. Players nowadays really need to stay on their feet, it's disgraceful.

 

You what? If he's tried to stay on his feet, there's no guarantee he'd have scored. The penalty was a much better chance than the one Gerrard had. And it got Hibbert the red card as well. And full marks to Gerrard for making sure the ref didn't let him off with a yellow - good work from the captain.

[Herbie von Smalls]

Gerrard's reaction looked to me like he was pissed off at being denied the opportunity to score, rather than someone intent on securing a penalty for someone else to take.

[Knox_Harrington]

You what? If he's tried to stay on his feet, there's no guarantee he'd have scored. The penalty was a much better chance than the one Gerrard had. And it got Hibbert the red card as well. And full marks to Gerrard for making sure the ref didn't let him off with a yellow - good work from the captain.

Well said.

 

The more we cheat and intimidate without getting caught the more likely we are to actually win the league.

[Herbie von Smalls]

i'd love to know what Gerrard actually said to the ref. when i saw it (on the stream) at the time i thought Stevie saw the yellow and thought he was going to be booked for diving and was putting clattenburg straight on that. i thought the ref had pulled out the yellow thinking it was the red card and had already made up his mind that hibbert was the last man and therefore had to go.

[John am Rhein]

A qualified lip reader writes:

 

Gerrard said: "C'mon Clattenberg you tw*t! You've got to send off that blue b*stard or there's no way your daughter's having that sports scholarship in California!"

[Knox_Harrington]

i'd love to know what Gerrard actually said to the ref. when i saw it (on the stream) at the time i thought Stevie saw the yellow and thought he was going to be booked for diving and was putting clattenburg straight on that. i thought the ref had pulled out the yellow thinking it was the red card and had already made up his mind that hibbert was the last man and therefore had to go.

Stevie called Clattenburg a "f***ing s***house" first half, just as a point.

[Herbie von Smalls]

Stevie called Clattenburg a "f***ing s***house" first half, just as a point.

good stuff.

 

out of curiosity, had clattenburg signalled the penalty when Gerrard spoke to him about the card?

[Knox_Harrington]

good stuff.

 

out of curiosity, had clattenburg signalled the penalty when Gerrard spoke to him about the card?

Oh yes. Well had.

 

Carra got to the ref much more than Gerrard.

[John am Rhein]

Stevie called Clattenburg a "f***ing s***house" first half, just as a point.

 

which, as captain, it's his job to do

[Knox_Harrington]

which, as captain, it's his job to do

Of course it's his job to do it. There's fine lines in these matters. Don't do it after every decision, don't scream in the referee's face and pick your moment. When Carra went berserk at Clattenburg about listening to the crowd he'd just got the decision wrong and Clattenburg must have known it. But Carra didn't scream "c***" in the ref's face or anything because that just undermines you. Similarly Gerrard just had a quiet word on a couple of occasions.

 

For f***ing ages I've been saying we need more of this, not just in derby games.

[John am Rhein]

In all objectivity, calling the referee a f*cking sh**house, should be a red card offence.

 

But justice was done.

[Knox_Harrington]

In all objectivity, calling the referee a f*cking sh**house, should be a red card offence.

 

But justice was done.

I don't. I've never been one for all that carry on. Football's vernacular isn't going to tally with society's.

 

Repeatedly screaming in the referee's face should be but offering it quietly on the way past as he did do shouldn't be.

 

"f***ing s***house" = "Think you got that decision wrong and you are being influenced by the occasion and the crowd here, referee, sir."

[John am Rhein]

So he should quietly call him a f*cking sh**house

 

I think they should draw a line between criticizing and insulting.

[Knox_Harrington]

So he should quietly call him a f*cking sh**house

 

I think they should draw a line between criticizing and insulting.

s***house can be an adjective as well as a noun. Now I think about it he said "f***ing s***house." He didn't make a big deal out of it, sprint after him, shout in his face. Had he done any of those things a card would be right.

 

In the heat of a game like that, any game really, these players aren't going to speak in the Queen's English. I'm sure Stubbs wasn't. When the referee is being openly abused, not questioned or criticised, that's when action should be taken. That's the fineline and, frankly, all of Carragher, Gerrard and Stubbs stayed that side of the line for me.

[KS]

I actually thought that the ref had the yellow up for their keeper for kicking the ball away... Looked like he forgot that when "reminded" that Hibbert should have a red...

[Guy_Incognito]

My first impression when I saw the yellow was that he hadn't given a penalty and was booking Gerrard for diving. It wasn't a nice moment.

[Sir Tokyo Sexwale]

good stuff.

 

out of curiosity, had clattenburg signalled the penalty when Gerrard spoke to him about the card?

yes - from the rear view, you see him point at the spot & move to towards the corner of the penalty area.

 

The original post in this thread must be a wind-up, in case it isn't - at a full sprint it doesn't take a great deal to knock you over. It also looks like Hibbert's leg connects with Gerrard's