Rotation

[Woodsyla]

This is an excellent article. All those questioning rotation must read it. I'm not saying it will change your mind but it makes some very good points

 

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...071010-1010.htm

[honourablegeorge]

"Sensationalism dressed up as Analysis"

 

Sky Sports & MOTD, in a nutshell.

[Cobs]

"In the 2006/07 season, Sir Alex Ferguson used a total of 23 players en route to the title. At Anfield, Benitez used six more.

 

Significantly, five of those selected by Benitez only featured in Liverpool's last three games of the season when the focus had shifted from domestic to continental pursuits with key first team players making way for youngsters as the Champions League final loomed.

 

So, for the most part of the season, Benitez and Ferguson utilised squads of an almost idenitical size. "

 

 

talk about lies, damn lies and statistics

[Guest Paul AB]

best ignore it all or you'll drove yourself insane.

 

the only way it will stop is if rafa wins the league.

[honourablegeorge]

Zonal marking, Gerrard on the right, Rotation...... *KABOOM*

[lfc003]

There seems to be one of these articles every week on the site

 

the pro rotation propaganda from the official site is almost as bad as the anti rotation brigade. Rotation has its negatives and postitves can people just not leave it at that.

[Woodsyla]

There seems to be one of these articles every week on the site

 

the pro rotation propaganda from the official site is almost as bad as the anti rotation brigade. Rotation has its negatives and postitves can people just not leave it at that.

 

So you read the article ?

[cymrococh]

+ the fact that Rafa's name is chanted at Valencia has absolutely f*ck all to do with us.

[Guest Kaizer]

I think it fails to address two vital points.

 

1. This is not La Liga, you will need more points to win the Premier League and this is why Rafa has not won it yet, with the season we had in 05/06 we would most probably have won La Liga, so when people asks questions about Rafa`s cautious approach where he thinks you will get enough points to win the league if your aim is to control the match and dont conceede. but this is not the case, in the PL you need to go for the win because if you get too many draws away from home and the odd loss you will not get enough points to finish as Champions.

 

2. This is mostly because of the approach but its also down to rotation, we rotate more for the sake of it than because its needed, and the idera that it does not matter if you lose some points at this stage of the season since you are fresh at the end will help you is not proven either, because first of all we need to win our own matches, something we never can count on, but more important we need the teams in front of us to drop points, so we base our league challenege on the hope of others failure.

 

Well I think its completely wrong, and I will address this whenever I feel its appropiate, when a journalist can see the big picture I`ll take their advice into consideration, before then well hopefully they will pick up a few good points along the way.

Edited October 10, 2007 by Kaizer

[Rimbeux]

Almost as boring as questions about rotation are these simplistic and flawed explanations of what the concept is. As if nobody knows? All aimed at the old 'I cant see why they cant play 60 games a season' argument, that I genuinely dont see aired or written or talked of to any extent.

 

To be equally simplistic, the debate I see and hear is not if x should play no more than 45 games, it's which 45 games should x play, who with, and for what reasons.

 

Also, these comparisons to other teams changes and players used should either be broken down into real detail, such as reasons for the changes, be they due to fitness, suspension, tactical or rotation, or not used. Simply noting down players used or number of changes doesn't even make a case for rotation, let alone how it's implemented, which is of course the real story.

Edited October 10, 2007 by Rimbeux

[Marvin]

Like everyone else I have thought about this a lot. I think what it comes down to is do we trust Rafa's judgement? What impresses me is the way Rafa is so single minded about this - some people say its stubbornness but I think Rafa is too clever, too determined and too ambitious to jeopardise everything he is working for by stubbornness and vanity. If Rafa gets this right it could deliver big time for the club and so I think he should just be allowed to get on with it.

[yellow jumper]

I think it fails to address two vital points.

 

1. This is not La Liga, you will need more points to win the Premier League and this is why Rafa has not won it yet, with the season we had in 05/06 we would most probably have won La Liga, so when people asks questions about Rafa`s cautious approach where he thinks you will get enough points to win the league if your aim is to control the match and dont conceede. but this is not the case, in the PL you need to go for the win because if you get too many draws away from home and the odd loss you will not get enough points to finish as Champions.

 

2. This is mostly because of the approach but its also down to rotation, we rotate more for the sake of it than because its needed, and the idera that it does not matter if you lose some points at this stage of the season since you are fresh at the end will help you is not proven either, because first of all we need to win our own matches, something we never can count on, but more important we need the teams in front of us to drop points, so we base our league challenege on the hope of others failure.

 

Well I think its completely wrong, and I will address this whenever I feel its appropiate, when a journalist can see the big picture I`ll take their advice into consideration, before then well hopefully they will pick up a few good points along the way.

 

that is one interpretation.

 

another is that he has proved himself to be one of the most ambitious and perceptive young coaches in europe, and while it has taken some time to familiarise himself with the realities of english football and the differences with the spanish league he is determined to improve on a so-so record in the premiership, making any changes to training, transfer policy or management technique to achieve his long-term targets. he is also aware that 90 odd points is what it might take to win the league and that rather than using rotation to diminish his chances of reaching that mark he believes it might be one way he can gain an advantage over more established teams over the long haul.

[Knox_Harrington]

Almost as boring as questions about rotation are these simplistic and flawed explanations of what the concept is. As if nobody knows? All aimed at the old 'I cant see why they cant play 60 games a season' argument, that I genuinely dont see aired or written or talked of to any extent.

 

To be equally simplistic, the debate I see and hear is not if x should play no more than 45 games, it's which 45 games should x play, who with, and for what reasons.

 

Also, these comparisons to other teams changes and players used should either be broken down into real detail, such as reasons for the changes, be they due to fitness, suspension, tactical or rotation, or not used. Simply noting down players used or number of changes doesn't even make a case for rotation, let alone how it's implemented, which is of course the real story.

Great post.

[Guest Paul AB]

we rotate more for the sake of it than because its needed.

 

 

yes, i'm sure with all the technical data at his disposal, rafa just thinks f*** it, "i'll rotate someone for the sake of it"