Redray

Oh you are awful.......

Just had a vision. Emery will be our coach next year.

Options 2 & 3 are actions you would normally associate with banks, these actions they are familiar with and undertake them on a regular basis. Option 1 much less so I would think. Unfamiliarity breeds reluctance and hesitation.

An interesting stat would be how many times Arsenal have won penalties and played against 10 men this season. Must be loads. They know how to turn games, not necessarily with their football

Where is the new Sack Hodgson thread?

Ignore that, a day too early.

Anyone know of a link for the Valencia v United game? Think they are going to a get a sound beating and want to watch it as it happens.

Marca reporting on SOS; http://www.marca.com/2010/09/28/futbol/futbol_internacional/premier_league/1285668865.html The whole world against Liverpool owners· Thousands of fans of the English set are mobilized in the 'Spirit of Shankly' Association to the owners of the club · The thing is starting to go hands to owners of Liverpool. Everyone is known to fans of the 'network' set to maintain a crusade against Tom Hicks and George Gillett to abandon a club that have drowned by multiple debts and sentenced to an uncertain future by more than questionable sports policy. However, thanks to the network of networks the mobilization of these fans is still growing and Internet is becoming a great speaker for shout out to the world that Liverpool is not on track. 'SPIRIT OF SHANKLY' a few years ago was born 'Spirit of Shankly', an Association of supporters of the team of Merseyside that expect to turn around the club policy and unseat u.s. owners soon Liverpool return to what it was. The name of this Union ('the espítu of Shankly', in Spanish) is best reef to explain what is intended to achieve. Bill Shankly is regarded as one of the most respected coaches throughout England and garnered significant successes. Many also believe in Merseyside as the saviour of Liverpool. This Scottish coach took the team struggled in the mire of English Second Division and in only two years managed to climb to later consolidated in the highest level of English football club. Won several titles and for that reason a statue monitors Anfield Stadium in his honor. Said at the time the football is not a matter of life or death, is much more than that and is now 'Spirit of Shankly' who, with the strength of Bill, seek a u-turn. There are already thousands of associated followers and a campaign launched on twitter already exceeds the 6000 followers. A campaign that gives back to the world By visiting their website you realize the extent and the impact that is taking this initiative created several years ago. However, what really draws attention is the commitment of their supporters. A gallery has been created in which all the Liverpool fans to share the ideas of 'Spirit of Shalky' can hang your photos. Which are and as they are with one common factor: has to receive the poster that has made them famous. ' Tom & George. Not Welcome Anywhere ' (Tom and George are not welcome anywhere). The amateurs 'reds' photograph against the owners of the club by everyone from South Africa, Australia, Malaysia, Morocco, Spain, Bulgaria and, as, from the United Kingdom was not received images. The most important monuments of different cities have used to fotografiár with the famous poster. And the impact is enormous. Take a walk for the gallery and you can see images that rub surrealism. From a cabin of an aircraft, a Moroccan boy with the shirt of Liverpool and in a field of land, newlyweds, two in the Camp Nou, the Empire State building (New York), the Petronas Towers (Kuala Lumpur) or the Chinese wall background, with the Simpsons claim stands... Over 500 images seeking to change something in Liverpool.

This is going to be interesting. Poulsen is not going to cut the mustard. Everyone can see it. Perseverance with him means he is just saving face. He will go up in my estimation a bit if he acts now and starts playing Lucas in that role.

The good news just keeps on coming.

We will lose. The result will be blamed on Rafa's players etc.

Beginning to get sick to the back teeth of the 'we are just as bad as last year' argument. Leaving aside the fact that it is complete b******s, it is hardly any kind of justification. Anyone remember clean sheets? We were the clean sheet masters. Even in last years so desperate a season only United and Chelsea conceded fewer in the PL. How many clean sheets this season so far? How many are we going to get. Not many I would venture to suggest.

I don't think it is possible to quantify yet just how big a mistake it was. Give it time and the full effect of that horrific decision will become apparent. That was kind of my point. Who is he trying to kid by still coming out with this kind of crap?

He didn't address that issue. 14. Why did the Board sack Rafa? "The Board didn't sack Rafa. Rafa's exit was about as clear cut a case of mutual consent as I have ever been involved in in my life. Both sides thought it was time for a change, both sides said so at the time, if you go back and check, and I wish him all the very best in his future career. He is a key part of our history and we wish him all the best."

We didn't sack him, Purslow tell us this. It was a mutual decision and we can go back and check if we doubt it.

The changes in the game on 60 mins worked though. Either he worked out Poulsen had to come off and Raul back in centre or someone told him to do it.

Liverpool sinking towards meltdown as fans vent By DION FANNING at Anfield ? Sunday September 26 2010 The corporate man at Anfield -- and there are a lot of them these days -- was getting worked up at half-time. He grabbed a minion on the stairs in the Main Stand. "Of all the days to be showing a great game of Benitez's, today is not the f***ing time." Sky were showing Liverpool's Champions League victory against Olympiakos which started Liverpool's improbable journey to Istanbul and this was not a day for a history lesson. When Steven Gerrard celebrated his equaliser against Sunderland at Anfield yesterday, he did so with almost the same passion he had shown when he scored the crucial goal that put Liverpool into the knock-out stages six years ago. Liverpool's priorities have changed. Steven Gerrard celebrated his equaliser against Sunderland at Anfield yesterday with almost the same passion he had shown when he scored a crucial Champions League goal six years ago. Liverpool have one win in six Premier League games this season but that is not their crisis. Exiting the Carling Cup at home to Northampton is not their crisis either. Roy Hodgson might have been going too far when he said afterwards that "I cannot see the drama" of that defeat but, equally, winning the Carling Cup and the FA Cup wouldn't solve Liverpool's problems. At the end of the game, the PA announcer at Anfield announced that the club was aware that "supporters were planning to peacefully demonstrate in respect of the ownership situation" and asked the crowd not to behave in an uncontrolled manner. This was astonishing: the club were sanctioning a protest against the owners of the club. In the corporate boxes and in the stand they chanted and turned to the Kop where thousands remained and sang, "They just care about money, they don't care about the fans, Liverpool Football Club is in the wrong hands." ? The Liverpool players, on the field to warm down, did not know what to do. They had dropped more points and they were in the middle of a club sinking in every possible way. Carragher and Gerrard applauded the Kop as they jogged by but they were entitled to be confused. In the city centre yesterday morning, the supporters' group, Spirit of Shankly, met to discuss their options as Liverpool teeter on the brink. They will protest but also they will look for fan ownership in the club. Within weeks, Liverpool could be owned by the British taxpayer, in the form of the Royal Bank of Scotland, and they may also enter administration and face a nine-point penalty, which would leave them on minus points. Most Liverpool fans would probably prefer that option to the continued involvement of Hicks and Gillett. They are said to be exploring ways of avoiding that penalty which would surely lead to a legal challenge from Liverpool's rivals. At the moment, that challenge is more likely to come from a relegation candidate than a Champions League side. Liverpool are now astonishing for many reasons, few of them good. The club that has won the European Cup five times is now weeks away from meltdown. The destruction of England's most successful club is not Hodgson's fault. But he is not the man to create the illusion on the field that it's not happening. Benitez's achievement in keeping Liverpool competitive while Hicks and Gillett destroyed the club for all but his final season is now looking even more remarkable as things enter a vital endgame. Sunderland were the better team yesterday. Until he scored, Gerrard had been just another anonymous player for Liverpool, out-thought and out-played by Jordan Henderson Liverpool's opening goal was bizarre. Sunderland's Michael Turner rolled the ball back to his goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, intending that he would take a free-kick. Instead he had already taken it. Torres took the ball and set up Dirk Kuyt. Sunderland came back when the dreadful Christian Poulsen handled the ball and then took the lead before Gerrard's equaliser. "We're not playing like a fourth or fifth place side at the moment," Hodgson conceded. He then pointed to the strange results across the league as some justification for what had happened yesterday at Anfield. The problem is there was nothing strange about Liverpool's result. - DION FANNING at Anfield Sunday Independent

I don't rate him either. The worry is that he is diverting attention. Current form with these owners means oblivion with even any god like figure in charge.

Roy Hodgson debate = red herring at best. At worst? If Hicks is courting Middle East investment aid as reported then there is some much more to worry about.

http://bit.ly/bt3xdH

About sums it up.

It actually made the front page of the WSJ. That's significant. http://bit.ly/cIlurV

Mediocre and negative. http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1210862-roy-hodgson-is-not-suited-to-liverpool-fc,-claims-former-blackburn-rovers-pupil.html Former Blackburn midfielder Lars Bohinen has questioned Roy Hodgson's suitability to managing Liverpool. The pair worked together when the 63-year-old was manager at Ewood Park in the 1997-98 campaign but Bohinen, 41, has spoken out by claiming that his former mentor's style of play since moving to Anfield as pressure grows following a difficult start to the new season. Whilst the ex-Norway international acknowledges that Hodgson is the best coach he ever worked under, he feels that his approach is better suited to a club who are accustomed to grinding out results rather than at Liverpool, where success is something of a requirement. "There is no element of surprise to Liverpool's current style of play," he told TV2. "It's all about passing the ball, but without any clear idea behind it. Players such as Gerrard and Torres are unable to shine in this formation and Roy Hodgson is the one to blame for this. "I've worked under him in the past and he's the best coach I've ever had. However, he focuses too much on the defensive structure of a team. "He doesn't really have a clear philosophy when it comes to attacking football. He used a similar style of play at Blackburn Rovers, Inter and Fulham. "Hodgson is the right man for a club that wants to defend a certain result, but I'm not sure whether he's the right man for Liverpool. "His preferred tactics suit a club like Fulham, but he's not much into attacking football and creative players. I expect [steven] Gerrard and [Fernando] Torres to continue suffering under Hodgson."

Looks like we are heading inexorably towards a fire sale pretty soon. Not sure if on field performances will have that much effect on ownership issues in those circumstances. Damage limitation dictates that KK is brought in now.