I'm not talking about the big one that gets passed along either. It's the waving of flags on poles for a few minutes before kick off then it's "Right, time's up. Time to pack up the show.". And as for seeing, there was never an issue back in the day with flags being waved all over the Kop during a match, it's what we did, particularly on those "famous European nights at Anfield". It was the whole experience. It's all becoming so corporate.