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The way I see it is that Rafa has been frustrated by the options available to him in the transfer market but also with the speed which he has been allowed to nail these options down. What he's doing is a classic power move, he knows he's in a great politcal position within the club for obvious reasons - he's arguably the most indispensible man at the club. So in theory the new owners have to bow to his demands for fast and decisive action in the transfer market. If his demands are met, and lets face it it the demands are not unreasonable for the position we're in, then this is a good move for him and the club.

ffs folks we won against the odds tonight, why are we concering ourselves with this ? for the sake of the argument though the reason the (non)foul by Kuyt was mentioned to Maureenho was obvious - they were trying to extract a good moan out of him about the slightest thing. If I was the production manager in charge of interviews I'd have pushed the same agenda. Think of it as a rope to hang himself with.

hahahahaha have you seen how far outside the box it was ?

And thats the truth, I was praying for him to get booked

Judging by his last performances he'll probably drop them....

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I have to say something...... Mascherano reminds me of Roy Keane. There I said it...

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Be so funny cause my manc brother in law has been quacking on about him for about a year and I would have a great laugh if he came to us and they blew £20m on Hargreaves.

yeah, this fits with my understanding - they were permanent signings so in theory neither MSI or Corinthians have a say in the onward transfer. In reality I'd be surprised if MSI doesn't have some say as they have the supposed large sell on clause.

See my post above but I was under the impression that WHU were the owners due to the fact that in England a player cannot be owned by anyone other than a football club. MSI are making their money from the sell on clause and there's no chance of them getting 16m anyway.

Isn't this a moot point anyway ?, MSI are only his agents these days as I think that in English football it's illegal for anyone other than the player's club to own their registration. MSI have agreed a majority sell on clause to recoup more money as they had to relinquish the players registration when they moved to england. Can anyone confirm/deny this ?

Sounds like your describing Roy Keane, careful one mention of him being the new Keane and Fergie will be throwing money at the hammers.....

I agree totally, although in my head he'd be more of a Momo type player but (dare I say it?) better - certainly more skillful and composed. Whoever said Makelele wasn't a bad shout really.

I always thought they'd be perfect together, if I were a madrid fan and this happened I'd be over the moon

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No way am I saying that, best night of my life (don't tell the wife!!), and if we won number 6 this season I'd be happy to finish 5th again - no bother.

The domestic cups can never quench the desire I have to see Liverpool win the league again. They're nice and it's great to win them but no comparison. We've waited 16 years to take the title home and the first season in years I've allowed myself to dream we crash and burn. gutted. I've been telling myself this for weeks, last night was the straw that broke the camels back. Hence the title of the thread. I just can't see how we can turn this around and go on such a run again this season, fair enough I'm very down in the mouth about this (normally a lot more positive) but I can't see where the turn around is coming from. Here's hoping that I'm prove wrong and end up with egg on my face.