Dan

We should have sold him in the summer when he was worth more. At this rate we'll be lucky to get £8M.

You're off your f*ckin cake lad. Owen was considered a penalty taker by Houllier who was pretty well informed on his attributes from 12 yards. He missed loads so by your logic he should have packed it in. Go and have a w*nk over yourself you daft tw*t.

Owen should have retired years ago then you b*ellend

Always baffles me when people say this.

Doesn't matter got em now.

Anyone? The online sales page is busy already - i thought it would be about 9am before you could buy them. Am i wasting my time trying to buy some for Fulham this early?

Can anyone tell me what time online tickets become available to buy in the morning? Cheers

The derby is not the game for Sissoko's return for me. He'll have no time at all to pick a pass, it'll be 100mph and it'll increase the likelihood of him giving it away. Mascherano and Alonso if fit - otherwise Gerrard and Mascherano.

Can anyone help with registering online to buy tickets. My mate whose had a fancard for years is trying to register online so that i can buy his ticket for him but its saying they aren't taking any online registrations and for details about a fan card click on the link provided.# Do they have a limit on how many PTS members can buy online ffs?

Cheers Might just try the online sales then

Are things back to normal in Liverpool? Just wondering if its safe to send off for Fulham this Friday using the post. Cheers

With respect Gillett and Hicks know f*ck all about the game so i doubt it very much.

Good. Someone give him some pills so he sleeps in on wed as well.

Offal saying its a slight twinge

I wish they'd just f*ckin get on with it. This has got to be biggest albatross known to man.

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Sorry but remind me of when and how he did that?

Inuries to key players though? Agger, Alonso, Gerrard and even Carra to a certain extent. Chelsea got them last season and f*cked it up. Arsenal got em last season and f*cked it up. The Mancs granted always seem to cope.

And injuries

They play a far more fluent passing game than us though without the need to rely on wingers to beat their men. Hleb is actually pretty good as well this season. Remains to be seen how Chelsea will cope without Robben. SWP?

Still too weak on the flanks for me. Pennant not good enough imo Kewell never fit Riise not good enough Babel - not an out and out winger but might be able to do a job Aurelio - jury still out for me not sure he's good enough defensively Benayoun - good impact player but only really effective coming inside

And me. I've been p*ssed off the last week but some are getting hysterical. Obviously somethings not quite right at the moment but some of the stuff being spouted is a major overreaction. Torres isn't happy? FFS he's loving life the last time he spoke which was about 2 weeks ago. Comments like this are what i'd expect on footballrumours.com or whatever that sh*te is called. Benitez is compromising the team to p*ss the media off? Do me a favour. He's stubborn but he's not daft. He makes decisions that he thinks will benefit the team whether it be in the short term or the long term. I don't always agree with it but to suggest he's compromising success to get one over the hacks is completely disrespectful. I honestly think we will start to see a more settled side after the international break. Not because of the media but because Rafa will know more about the limitations of his squad (which admittedly calls into question his dealings in the transfer market this summer, in particular a seemingly futile, yet drawn out pursuit of Heinze). Torres has started 4 games on the bounce. Something a lot on here said would never happen. He won't be dropped for the derby or against Arsenal so thats a pretty good run is it not? I think there is something in the departure of Pako but thats just something that we'll have to ride out. Carra and Gerrard are bang out of form. Alonso and Agger are integral to the team who are also missing. Thats the f*ckin spine of the team either playing sh*te or not at all. Yes rotation hasn't helped at times but its not the only or even main reason imo why we are struggling - its one of many.

He's played the last 4 games after scoring a hat-trick ffs. Calm down you're talking b*llocks.

I'm sorry but i challenge you to find anyone whose said that since the season has kicked off.

Utter b*llocks. So every defeat regardless of circumstances is down to the manager as much as the players? Wake up. Individual errors cost us today. Yeh Rafa has made some mistakes in the past few weeks imo but he couldn't do anymore today than put out his strongest 11 - which arguably he did.