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Depends on whether you consider coffee and yoga to be work.

Nah.

No, and his Dortmund s*** the bed on the last day of the season.

It is. Couldn’t ever have imagined a scenario before this season where I’d be thinking he needs to go. I had bugbears last season but it’s hard to argue with winning the league. Even during the terrible performances in the autumn I thought shouts for his head were mad and premature, that he had to be given the opportunity to turn things around because not just anyone can walk into the PL and win it at first ask. But during our worst seasons under Klopp, with worse injury crises or when our entire midfield’s legs fell off at the same time, Klopp found a solution that saw us end the season strongly. Slot has never even gotten close to that point. Occasional wins against suitable opponents don’t mask that we’re drifting and he doesn’t know how to stop it.

Birthday boy's is 7 months, mine 9.

Never got over Mick McCarthy's "f*** me, it's Jedward!" when he was at Spurs.

Nope, but our kids are 7 and 9 months old.

Seven games left and we’re on course for a 60-point season (average 1.58 ppg). If we win all our remaining games we’ll have 70.

This is my fear too and why I suspect anyone coming in now would be on a hiding to nothing.

Missed the game for a mate's birthday do, saw the result, assumed it was more of the same. Just watched the "highlights" on YouTube and, yeah, whatever about the game… check out this selection for German football's "s*** goal of the year 2025" that popped up in YT's related videos:

It’s not cheating when teams choose to defend.

Don't know if this is just noise out of Saudi or Hughes trying to wring out a bigger contract, but if he chose to go there I wouldn't be arsed. Not because I think he's bad at his job, jury is still out there, but anyone choosing to go there from a position at the top of the European game isn't a serious football person.

Yeah, there were things that irked me or left me cold last season, but it felt like it would have been mad and spoilt when we were cantering to the league to gripe about slow first halves, a lot of quite staid football and the coach saying nice things about the club without appearing to have any feeling for it. Also, maybe I wouldn't have noticed the latter thing had we not been led by a giant energetic ball of charisma in the years prior to Slot's arrival.

I'm not attacking him, if that counts for anything. I just think this race is run and that there is now an excellent candidate to replace him on the market. It's sad – lad won the league! – but I think his weaknesses have been heavily exposed and he hasn't been able to rectify them.

I honestly think he would be tempted by a squad that contains the likes of Wirtz, Isak and Ekitike, with the likes of Szobo and Grav having made strides since he left. The question is only if he would want something entirely new. I'd really hope this Real Madrid chat is nonsense, but if he wants to coach again only without the day-to-day intensity, the German national team might be what he lands on. Going against what I said earlier about interims, I'd take Klopp if he wanted to do it. It would be win-win. If he only wanted to help out the club in a time of need but was clear that it would be no more, he would make perfect sense as an interim. And if there were the possibility of convincing him to stay on beyond this season, so much the better. It wasn't obvious at all. There were plenty of plausible reasons for short-term underperformance and he had literally won the league title a few months earlier.

I agree that what’s happening now is nonsense but Carrick might end up being exactly the same cautionary tale as Solskjaer was. What is the sweet spot when hiring an interim? Let’s say it would be Gerrard, the most obvious and available candidate. Most people if they’re honest know he’s not a good enough coach for our level, in the same way Lampard wasn’t for Chelsea, nor Solskjaer for United. You can point to his achievements at Rangers, but if we use that logic, then why not Postacoglou, a Liverpool fan who did better in both the SPL and the PL? So what are the scenarios that come from Gerrard coming in as interim? 1. He does badly, leaves at the end of the season, no benefit from sacking Slot. 2. He does okay, wins about half of our remaining games, leaves at the end of the season, no benefit from sacking Slot. 3. He does well, wins about 60-75% of our remaining games, we get CL but win nothing, there is now a clamour from a percentage of the fanbase to keep him, short term benefit to sacking Slot but now we’re going into next season either with a coach not good enough for the long term or there is a new guy but a section of the fanbase is annoyed we didn’t keep the club icon when he’d done enough to get the job. 4. He does brilliantly, we win 75%+ of our remaining games and a trophy, he gets the job and we get a short term benefit to sacking Slot but now we’re managed by a guy who isn’t good enough for the job and if he does badly, which he probably will, it’s going to get ugly among the fans because, like with Kenny, sacking a club icon is a messy business. I understand the impulse to react now, to think, “It can’t get any worse,” but in my view it would either not work or open up a can of worms I personally can’t be arsed with, although I respect the views of others who think otherwise.

That’s my assumption too. I get that it’s annoying and frustrating to just allow a season to peter out as this one has done, but for whatever reason it’s Slot until summer and then he’s gone and hopefully/presumably Alonso in.

That was an issue last season too, but yeah, it seems like everything is geared towards running as little as we can get away with. But we can't get away with anything like that, not in the PL.

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing. The stuff about the training would go a long way to explaining how the team looks so unfit and only able to keep running for about 70 minutes.

And the fact it has Gerrard coming in to coach us. I would honestly rather have Slot until the end of the season than go through the Gerrard psychodrama. Interim coaches are nonsense.

Didn't read the piece, haven't read anything from Tomkins for years and don't have any beef with him, but his whole schtick back in the day (at least as far as I remember it) was how we were a plucky, overperforming David vs the Goliaths of United, Chelsea etc when you looked at our wage bill. Basically a documentation of the Benitez era. I'm not sure that approach is really relevant anymore, and I don't really want to go back to it. All last season, Slot was happy to talk about the elite standards of LFC and how not just anyone can succeed here. Well, it's live by the sword, die by the sword then.

Yeah, just went to check where we'd be. One point behind City on 60.

Yeah, I thought at the time it was because they were mentally on the beach, but now I'm wondering if they just ran out of steam. The signs were there in the last months before we boxed off the league and then we fell off a cliff. I think if there had been a real title race (let's say City hadn't fallen apart or Arsenal weren't injured/cowards), we maybe wouldn't have won the league.

It's mad how unfit the team looks. Obviously the Jota tragedy will have been a factor behind pre-season not going to plan, but the responsibility still lies with Slot and his team. We're playing the in PL, not the Eredivisie. It's intense. Lads have to be able to run.