Huh??? Two, at best three of that five would be in Rafa's best team at the moment. But I agree with your wider point. Sadly, I think basically it's now f***ed under Rafa. For whatever reason, he's become swept up in a tide of events largely beyond his control, and I don't really see a way back. The players have stopped playing for him, the owners have fatally undermined him and I can't see how he can turn the tide. Wenger or Ferguson, even in their trophy-less periods, were never anything other than total authority figures at their clubs, and I don't think Rafa will ever be seen in that light again. The thought of what the future holds fills me with despair. And one last thing - Mourinho as manager would be the final nail in the coffin of everything that makes (made?) Liverpool special. Cheers