Jim D

Plus when Arsenal have chances they take them. It's why they've done better than us over the past few games. They don't conceded goals and their forward players take the pressure of their defence by being ruthless with their conversion ratio. Watching our forwards flunk chance after chance in every game must have been demoralizing for the team as a whole.

Aye, I think 4-3-3 should be put in the bin. It's worked really well for us under Klopp but right now it's just not working. We have a soft underbelly and our inability to control games is extremely evident. Just pick the best formation for the players at your disposal till the end of the season.

Yep Trents game has evolved, he isn't a destroyer he's a creator. His new position should be in midfield, preferably a right winger. He'd put in some dangerous crosses with that right peg of his.

Not good enough, simple as. He just isn't mentally right to lead the line for Liverpool FC.

Ok cards on the table time, which of the senior players just didn't step up when it was required over the past several games, for me: Nunez, Salah and Dom are my main three. I expected better from them.

At one point he was showing signs of promise and heading in the right direction and then quite drastically he started to just hit the ball as hard as he could at goal. No finesse, no technique, he just lacks the footballing intelligence of a Jota.

It is but I'm not mad at Klopp, I'm angry at some of the players. Some of them downed tools and quite clearly never worked hard enough on their faults to improve their game.

He's ran out of steam. He's just going through the motions now. At the beginning of the season we weren't expected to challenge for the title, top 4 was the priority. Jurgen looks like he's delivered on that. Yes it's disappointing how the season is finishing off but I will say this don't let these last few games tarnish your view of Klopp. He's been one of the best managers we've ever had and one of the best managers to grace the premier league.

Well that's it then, so f***ing disappointed at our senior players. You'd think the one time where experience and past performance would count over these past several weeks has gone completely out of the window. Our youngsters who stepped up to the mantle after some of our most important senior players we're out injured got us into a position to win this league have been let down by those said senior players. I feel bad for Klopp, in some respects he has to take some of the blame because he is the one who picks them but some of the players though have in some way not returned the favour after placing a lot of trust in them.

Yeah that's what so damning. The youngsters played better than this lot and as soon as the regulars returned back from fitness we've fallen to pieces.

Subs are underwhelming, that Sheffield United game was the writing on the wall. We won yes but it highlighted a lot of shortcomings which we never addressed.

Bad team selection I'm afraid, Jurgen picked players who have let him down recently. We're not getting back into this.

Need changes and fast. Why is Jurgen persisting with this? We needed changes at HT.

Dom, Nunez, Salah off. Dom hasn't played well since before Christmas, Nunez and Mo haven't played well for two months. The one time we needed these two to step up for a title push and they've gone missing in front of goal. We looked better at Fulham.

But once again, we've put ourselves in a position where we have to come from behind again. We've not started games well all season with the odd exception here or there. It's a terrible pattern we've seen time and time again. Jurgen has got himself out of jail several times but Crystal Palace was a step too far and I fear tonight will also be. Too many of our players letting us down.

Aye, changes are needed and badly. Just the same old pattern of play we've come to see from some of these players. It's just not good enough, plain and simple.

We're carrying players here, too many of our supposed experienced players not stepping up when needed. Mo and Nunez haven't delivered over the past few games. We looked better at Fulham without them.

Any potential candidates from hiring within? If right candidate isn't available now, would a stop gap suffice?

I admire the optimists on here but I think today we blew it. I just can't see City dropping anymore points and even if they did, we haven't played well for a while and we can't stop conceding goals. We have no momentum coming into the last six games of the season and under current form we aren't winning all six.

As I mentioned in another thread, this is on Jurgen unfortunately. You can't just keep on conceding the first goal and keep expecting to get away it. It has built more and more pressure on the frontline to score goals and when it continues to happen the pressure keeps on increasing. Its no coincidence that made a significant contribution to us not being able to score mentally.

Sad to see Mo go off the boil when we really needed him. He's been a great ambassador for this club. One of our best signings under Klopp. I would be tempted by a very big offer for him in the summer to help the new guy to put his mark on the new team.

True top 4 was the goal at the start of the season but the past three weeks have been brutal considering where we put ourselves. But it's time to turn the page on this chapter.

Such a sad way to end the season. Two home games to progress in the UEFA and stay on the title charge and we lose both. Still conceding the first goal in a game, this has happened all season and was never addressed. That's on the manager and the coaching staff and some of our senior players have let the club and the fans down. Some shocking performances recently by our experienced players. I mistakenly thought they would guide us over the line but unfortunately they didn't step up when needed.

That's what is shocking in my opinion. The youngsters played better when we had all the injuries and since the senior players have returned we've gone to s***.

This and Jurgen subs have got us out of jail everytime at half time but at some point it's going to catch up with you. We haven't start games well for the majority of the season, it's just not sustainable.