Hard to know which way either of these will go, but as always for me, I believe the bookies rarely get these wrong. Last year when everyone thought/hoped Alonso would stay and Masch was off, the bookies had him money on to stay, while Alonso, was money on to go. Now Torres is 1/2 to stay, and Gerrard, slightly less favorably, is 8/13 to stay. Given the lack of any real indicators I choose to believe the bookies, after all they do pray to Satan.