The battle for second place

[fred milne]

2. Utd Played 28 Pts 60 GD +28

3. LFC Played 30 Pts 58 GD +19

 

Remaining fixtures

 

Utd

 

Sat 18/3 West Brom A

Sun 26/3 Birmingham City H

Wed 29/3 West Ham H

Sat 1/4 Bolton Wanderers A

Sun 9/4 Arsenal H

Fri 14/4 Sunderland H

Mon 17/4 Tottenham A

Sat 22/4 Middlesbrough H

Sat 29/4 Chelsea A

Sun 7/5 Charlton Athletic H

 

LFC

 

Sun 19/3 Newcastle United A

Sat 25/3 Everton H

Sat 1/4 West Brom A

Sun 9/4 Bolton Wanderers H

Sat 15/4 Blackburn Rovers A

Sat 22/4 West Ham United A

Sat 29/4 Aston Villa H

Sun 7/5 Portsmouth A

Edited March 16, 2006 by fred milne

[dodgy1]

3rd it is then. I just hope we can keep the others at arms length.

[sutty]

Can see the mancs dropping 7 points or less out of that

[Falconhoof]

United would have to have a disastrous spell and they are coming into a good run of form so I don't think it will happen.

 

There's an outside chance but we've already improved on last season and closed the gap so its no big deal.

[Guest Kev]

Not looking at the Mancs now, I'm checking the results of Spurs, Arsenal and Bolton.

[fred milne]

Can see the mancs dropping 7 points or less out of that

On paper they have the harder run-in (Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, Bolton) but I think we've probably given ourselves too much to do.

[AE]

Not looking at the Mancs now, I'm checking the results of Spurs, Arsenal and Bolton.

 

We'll get third Kev.

[Nate.]

Not looking at the Mancs now, I'm checking the results of Spurs, Arsenal and Bolton.

 

 

 

Negative Neddie strikes again.

[Guest Kev]

Negative Neddie strikes again.

 

Not being negative, being realistic.

[Raj]

3rd it is then. I just hope we can keep the others at arms length.

 

We're on 58 points with 8 games to go. If we win 4, that would give us 70 points.

Spurs have a tough run in and i dont expect them to catch us. Still to play Arsenal, Man Utd, etc

Arsenal are on 47 points with 9 games to go. To beat our total they would have to win 8 of these games. Thats a very tall order.

 

We need to focus on ourselves and with our run -n, we are capable of getting points at all remaining games.

[G Richards]

There's a small chance for second. Man United could easily drop 9 points (draw at Bolton, draw with Arsenal, draw at Spurs, defeat at Chelsea). If that happened then they finish with 81 points.

 

We need to win our 8 remaining games, then we finish with 82 points.

 

As I say, it's unlikely, but there's still a glimmer of hope for second spot.

[Guest JV]

Not looking at the Mancs now, I'm checking the results of Spurs, Arsenal and Bolton.

As do I. Bolton with 3 games in hand aswell.

[anny road]

Utd

 

Sat 18/3 West Brom A 2-0 win

Sun 26/3 Birmingham City H 4-1 win

Wed 29/3 West Ham H 0-0 draw

Sat 1/4 Bolton Wanderers A 0-1 defeat

Sun 9/4 Arsenal H 1-1 draw

Fri 14/4 Sunderland H 3-0 win

Mon 17/4 Tottenham A 0-1 defeat

Sat 22/4 Middlesbrough H 2-0 win

Sat 29/4 Chelsea A 0-2 defeat

Sun 7/5 Charlton Athletic H 3-1 win

 

17 points

 

LFC

 

Sun 19/3 Newcastle United A 2-0 win

Sat 25/3 Everton H 3-1 win

Sat 1/4 West Brom A 0-2 win

Sun 9/4 Bolton Wanderers H 1-0 win

Sat 15/4 Blackburn Rovers A 1-1 draw

Sat 22/4 West Ham United A 0-1 defeat

Sat 29/4 Aston Villa H 3-0 win

Sun 7/5 Portsmouth A 1-0 win

 

19 points

[Andy @ Allerton]

2. Utd Played 28 Pts 60 GD +28

3. LFC Played 30 Pts 58 GD +19

 

Remaining fixtures - I PREDICT

 

Utd

 

Sat 18/3 West Brom A --MANC WIN--

Sun 26/3 Birmingham City H --MANC WIN--

Wed 29/3 West Ham H --MANC WIN--

Sat 1/4 Bolton Wanderers A --DRAW--

Sun 9/4 Arsenal H --MANC WIN--

Fri 14/4 Sunderland H --MANC WIN--

Mon 17/4 Tottenham A --DRAW--

Sat 22/4 Middlesbrough H --MANC WIN--

Sat 29/4 Chelsea A --MANC LOSS--

Sun 7/5 Charlton Athletic H --MANC WIN--

 

LFC

 

Sun 19/3 Newcastle United A --DRAW--

Sat 25/3 Everton H --LFC WIN--

Sat 1/4 West Brom A --LFC WIN--

Sun 9/4 Bolton Wanderers H --LFC WIN--

Sat 15/4 Blackburn Rovers A --DRAW--

Sat 22/4 West Ham United A --DRAW--

Sat 29/4 Aston Villa H --LFC WIN--

Sun 7/5 Portsmouth A --LFC LOSS--

[Woodsyla]

Not being negative, being realistic.

 

b******s, we are two points behind Utd and 9pts ahead of Spurs and 13pts ahead of Bolton.

 

Even if all three win their games in hand we will be 8pts behind Utd, 6 ahead of Spurs and 4 ahead of Bolton.

 

Bolton, Spurs and Arsenal all have to play Utd so either Utd will be out of sight and we will have recoupled the game in hand and maintained our advantage, or Utd will have dropped a s*** load of points and the race for second will be on.

 

You are being negative, 2nd is more acheivable than 5th. If we finish 4th so be it, 3rd or 4th means the same thing in terms the CL.

[Gilps]

If we finish 4th so be it, 3rd or 4th means the same thing in terms the CL.

 

Not whilst Arsenal remain in this season's CL it doesn't.

 

It is true that 2nd is slightly more likely than 4th at this stage though, although 3rd is likeliest outcome.

[Guest Kev]

b******s, we are two points behind Utd and 9pts ahead of Spurs and 13pts ahead of Bolton.

 

Even if all three win their games in hand we will be 8pts behind Utd, 6 ahead of Spurs and 4 ahead of Bolton.

 

Bolton, Spurs and Arsenal all have to play Utd so either Utd will be out of sight and we will have recoupled the game in hand and maintained our advantage, or Utd will have dropped a s*** load of points and the race for second will be on.

 

You are being negative, 2nd is more acheivable than 5th. If we finish 4th so be it, 3rd or 4th means the same thing in terms the CL.

 

I know when I'm being negative thanks, I've had enough practice. I've checked the fixtures and we wont catch Man United, there is more of a threat from the teams I've mentioned than from us towards the Mancs.

[Woodsyla]

I know when I'm being negative thanks, I've had enough practice. I've checked the fixtures and we wont catch Man United, there is more of a threat from the teams I've mentioned than from us towards the Mancs.

 

You can't have it both ways

 

Spurs

 

Birmingham v Tottenham

Tottenham v West Brom

Newcastle v Tottenham

Tottenham v Man City

Everton v Tottenham

Tottenham v Man Utd

Arsenal v Tottenham

Tottenham v Bolton

West Ham v Tottenham

 

To catch us they need to gain 9pts back from one game more. Therefore they must beat at least 2of a***, Bolton, Manu

 

 

Arsenal

 

Arsenal v Charlton

Portsmouth v Arsenal

Arsenal v Aston Villa

Man Utd v Arsenal

Arsenal v West Brom

Man City v Arsenal

Arsenal v Tottenham

Sunderland v Arsenal

Arsenal v Wigan

 

To catch us they need to gain 11pts from one game more. Therefore they must win all their game beating both Spurs and Utd

 

Bolton

 

Bolton v Sunderland

Middlesbrough v Bolton

Bolton v Man Utd

Birmingham v Bolton

Liverpool v Bolton

Bolton v Chelsea

West Brom v Bolton

Bolton v Charlton

Tottenham v Bolton

Bolton v Birmingham

 

To catch us they need to gain 13pts with 3 games in hand. Actually, on paper, the most likely to catch us, however, the least capable of performing it IMO. Need to beat either Utd or Chelsea at home and must beat us away. Also need to beat Spurs.

 

 

Any ONE of those teams above could challenge us and if they go on a remarkable run they could pip us to 3rd. If two teams were to go on a remarkable run, firstly they would take points off each other thus making it harder to catch us. Secondly they would have to take points off Man U thus making it easier for us to catch them.

 

 

 

IMO none of the above will put a good enough run together to get near us and Utd will win against enough of these teams to stay above us. I am looking above not below if Utd slip up they have a tough run of fixtures and we could reel them in.

[Guest Kev]

Woodsyla.

 

I'm not being negative at all. Everyone has got tough games and can drop points including us. There are 27 points to play for still and Man United have got by far the easiest run in and cannot see them dropping the points needed for us to catch them.

[fred milne]

Man United have got by far the easiest run in.

How do you work that out?

[Ostrich Man]

hes doing the anti-mocker thing....even i can see its more likely youll end up 2nd than 4th....kev just doesnt want to shout his hopes out too loud.

[Guest JV]

hes doing the anti-mocker thing....even i can see its more likely youll end up 2nd than 4th....kev just doesnt want to shout his hopes out too loud.

Your trying the Mocker thing though.

 

 

 

[fred milne]

hes doing the anti-mocker thing....even i can see its more likely youll end up 2nd than 4th....kev just doesnt want to shout his hopes out too loud.

I notice you haven't said anything about the chance of us finishing 5th.

[Woodsyla]

Woodsyla.

 

I'm not being negative at all. Everyone has got tough games and can drop points including us. There are 27 points to play for still and Man United have got by far the easiest run in and cannot see them dropping the points needed for us to catch them.

 

 

We will have to agree to disagree, I think Utd have a much tougher run in, they are however in a good run of form at the moment but there are places they can drop points in that lot.

[Guest Kev]

How do you work that out?

 

By being an expert football pundit

 

We will have to agree to disagree, I think Utd have a much tougher run in, they are however in a good run of form at the moment but there are places they can drop points in that lot.

 

I agree they could drop points, but so could we and we can't afford to drop any. In my view we have tough games at Newcastle, against Everton, against Bolton, at Bolton, West Ham and Portsmouth. The only two games left that I am a little bit confident are WBA and Villa.